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Let me point out how you are completely illogical by asking you two questions?
1. How many people would you guess have collections of over 50 guns in the US?
Once again, for the impaired, the gun in question is solely the AR15 types. Of those that have more than 50 of these, the number of gun owners wouldn't matter to me.
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2. How many people with gun collections of more than 50 guns would you guess have gone on shooting sprees in the US?
Since this would have tipped off authorities in the Vegas shooting, this is really irrelevant. Your sides contention is solely nothing will stop it all, and most aren't criminals, so we should do nothing at all and let these mass shootings continue as they will. Others don't have this sort of mindset. Your side even mouths about stopping the crazies, and yet when something is suggested that might do so you react this way once again. I am suggesting a way to spot the Vegas types beforehand.
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You may even see that you are acting just like the person who will accuse you of owning a gun due to feelings of inadequacy.
Well, a little projection from you maybe.But you will need to take that particular issue up with the gun manufacturers who understand the minds of their customers. They are the ones targeting you guys with the inadequacy ads, and getting increased sales from them. Viagra doesnt market ads to 20 somethings who don't need their product.
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About five years ago, I received a survey call about gun ownership.
I lied and said I didn't own any.
Honestly, I'd guess that at least a third of gun owner would say in a survey, school questionnaire, medical questionnaire, etc that they don't own any guns.
I'd also guess it has been a growing trend that is reflected in that survey, making it unreliable.
Also in states like mine, gun registration is illegal.
Paddock must be a hero to you. Forty something guns.
He's an anomaly. Emotionally unstable and irrational, just like left-wingers.
Look at the chart you posted. More guns in fewer households. So what do those multiple guns per household represent? A 50% decline in the gun homicide rate (CDC), and a 76% decline in the nonfatal gun crime rate (Pew Research).
Ah, yes, the dreaded "military style weapon" or otherwise known as "any weapon developed specifically for the military".
Let's see...
.30-06 cartridge and rifle, specifically the 1903 Springfield bolt-action rifle and the M-1 Garand. After WWI, the Springfield was in great demand by civilians for hunting and target shooting. The .30-06 cartridge became the go-to caliber for hunting nearly world wide. I used to hunt with a sporterized M-1 Garand, but somebody stole it in 1964.
.45-70 Government. Obviously, developed for the Federal government. Marlin makes a very nice reproduction of the 1896 lever action carbine and rifle.
AR-15 rifle; ARmalite model #15, developed for civilian use, modified into the M-16 for the military. When introduced, commonly known among soldiers as "that Mattel-toy rifle". I, for one, don't want to be reminded of that fiasco, so I do not want one. Yes, the latest ones are better, but I still do not want one. I used to have a .22 semi-auto rifle that was built to look exactly like the AR-15. Mossberg makes one to this day. The stereotypical scary "black rifle"!
M-1 carbine. Light, easy to carry, fun to shoot, but nearly useless as a combat weapon due to lack of stopping power. Eventually converted into the M-2 fully automatic version; still not enough stopping power. Ruger made a revolver that takes the M-1 carbine cartridge. No other gun uses it.
The M-1911 .45 ACP pistol, invented by John Browning in the late 1800s. The military bought thousands of them.
The Colt SAA (Single Action Army) in .45 Long Colt. Again, thousands made for civilians and military. General Patton carried a matched pair.
Many pistols today were made for civilians, but have been put to military and law enforcement use. Beretta, Glock, etc.
The so-called "assault weapon" ban, banned rifles only on appearance, not on function. Add a couple of "black" accessories to a muzzle loader and it would be a banned rifle. It proved that those idiots writing the laws know absolutely nothing about guns. That is why It was allowed to expire, the law was worthless.
I had an M-16 in Vietnam. They were junk. I got lucky and was able to trade mine for an M-14. The M-16 cost some soldiers their lives. The Cong had much better guns.
Once again, for the impaired, the gun in question is solely the AR15 types. Of those that have more than 50 of these, the number of gun owners wouldn't matter to me.
Since this would have tipped off authorities in the Vegas shooting, this is really irrelevant. Your sides contention is solely nothing will stop it all, and most aren't criminals, so we should do nothing at all and let these mass shootings continue as they will. Others don't have this sort of mindset. Your side even mouths about stopping the crazies, and yet when something is suggested that might do so you react this way once again. I am suggesting a way to spot the Vegas types beforehand.
Well, a little projection from you maybe.But you will need to take that particular issue up with the gun manufacturers who understand the minds of their customers. They are the ones targeting you guys with the inadequacy ads, and getting increased sales from them. Viagra doesnt market ads to 20 somethings who don't need their product.
Would 50 Ruger Mini14s be cause for concern?
Would 50 KelTec RDBs be cause for concern?
Would 50 Steyr AUGs be cause for concern?
Would 50 IWI Tavors be cause for concern?
Would 50 KelTec SU16s be cause for concern?
Know what would have tipped off authorities in this case? The gun man's significant other who reported to say he had night terrors. There's how you spot the Vegas types.
Gun ads? Targeting an inadequacy?
Only gun ads I have seen come from bass pro shops. Or hanging on the walls inside a gun store or range.
I haven't seen any commercials from Ruger, Glock, Remington, Kimber, Springfield Armory, Spikes, Windham, Daniel's Defense, Kalashnikov, Colt etc aired on TV.
I haven't seen any billboard ads for firearms.
Would 50 Ruger Mini14s be cause for concern?
Would 50 KelTec RDBs be cause for concern?
Would 50 Steyr AUGs be cause for concern?
Would 50 IWI Tavors be cause for concern?
Would 50 KelTec SU16s be cause for concern?
Know what would have tipped off authorities in this case? The gun man's significant other who reported to say he had night terrors. There's how you spot the Vegas types.
So in your world the tipoff for a crazy gun nutter is night terrors,something quite common to harmless people all over the world, rather than feeling the need to amass an arsenal of AR15 clones.
*sigh*
Only in the mind of a gun nutter would this statement make any sense.
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Gun ads? Targeting an inadequacy?
Only gun ads I have seen come from bass pro shops. Or hanging on the walls inside a gun store or range.
I haven't seen any commercials from Ruger, Glock, Remington, Kimber, Springfield Armory, Spikes, Windham, Daniel's Defense, Kalashnikov, Colt etc aired on TV.
I haven't seen any billboard ads for firearms.
Bushmaster . I'll see if I can find the link. The gun manufacturers realized the problem with this type of marketing, no matter how productive it had been, after they were mocked with pictures of Adam Lanza.
So in your world the tipoff for a crazy gun nutter is night terrors,something quite common to harmless people all over the world, rather than feeling the need to amass an arsenal of AR15 clones.
*sigh*
Only in the mind of a gun nutter would this statement make any sense.
Bushmaster . I'll see if I can find the link. The gun manufacturers realized the problem with this type of marketing, no matter how productive it had been, after they were mocked with pictures of Adam Lanza.
Don't go back peddling now... you were all for psych screenings for gun purchases were you not? Night terrors that occurred frequently at that are normal? According to the psychiatrist that was on TV last night, night terrors are a severe sign of underlying issues, and that parents bring children in usually immediately if it is a regularly occurring issue.
I'm no shrink myself...
Guess you're also against the belief of, if you hear or see something, say something...
Don't go back peddling now... you were all for psych screenings for gun purchases were you not? Night terrors that occurred frequently at that are normal? According to the psychiatrist that was on TV last night, night terrors are a severe sign of underlying issues, and that parents bring children in usually immediately if it is a regularly occurring issue.
I'm no shrink myself...
Guess you're also against the belief of, if you hear or see something, say something...
Backpeddling? Hardly son. The only thing I have suggested is that acquiring large numbers of AR15 clones might be a tipoff to mental instability. Don't go getting dishonest and attributing things to me I didn't say. Stick with the facts, and leave your invented nonsense aside.
Im not sure what kind of logic your last sentence is supposed to contain, since I am the one asking if it would raise any red flags for you guys to see a neighbor hoarding large numbers of these guns. Do you even think about what you post before hitting the submit button? If not, now would be a good time to start.
Liberals, who are leading the charge for more gun control laws, have already shown that they are perfectly fine with fascist behavior. All you really have to do to see this fact is look at the recent idiocy involving the KKK, BLM, and Antifa. All three of those groups are despicable to most rational thinking people, but only the KKK is subject to censure by the left because they don't embrace liberal philosophies. Progressives seem to have no problem with resorting to unprovoked violence in order to shut them down, and even praise the groups that start the violence. So yes, in the case of gun control, especially when that gun control is pushed by liberals, it is one step away from fascism.
Idk.
Many liberals are just asking for things like not allowing the mentally ill to purchase guns.
Tell me with a straight face that this guy should be able to buy guns. I realize enforcing this would be difficult to impossible, and it'd cost too much money. So I don't support such laws. I just disagree with the sentiment that the severely mentally ill should, on principle, be able to buy firearms.
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