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Because both the alt-right and the Nazis were racist.
Also the Nazis were not socialist, any more than today's North Korea is a "Republic."
Nazi was a mutation of the cancerous socialism with some racist flavor and has been firmly on the left.
The way to tell is that both Nazi and socialism are totalitarian and authoritarian whether they operate under a democracy aka mob rule or dictatorship.
Both are disgusting and evil.
The right are for small government and on the far right there's no government. A society without a government cannot be totalitarian or authoritarian.
'national socialism' was formed in direct opposition to socialism.
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The way to tell is that both Nazi and socialism are totalitarian and authoritarian whether they operate under a democracy aka mob rule or dictatorship.
Both are disgusting and evil.
The right are for small government and on the far right there's no government. A society without a government cannot be totalitarian or authoritarian.
this is so stupid that i can't even respond, im just laughing
The Nazis were as socialist as the German Democratic Republic was democratic.
Then why was the overriding theme of Hitler and the Nazis the subjugation of the individual to the benefit of the collective society, up to and including mass genocide/democide to specifically further that purpose?
Because both the alt-right and the Nazis were racist.
Jew isn't a race. Hitler and the Nazis were anti-Semitic for the same reason many people here in the US revile the top 1%. Jews appeared to Hitler and the Nazis to be disproportionately (and many believed undeservedly) successful and wealthy. Hitler and the Nazis Confiscated their possessions/wealth (value of about $16 billion, at the time), and shipped them off to concentration Camps.
Jew isn't a race. Hitler and the Nazis were anti-Semitic for the same reason many people here in the US revile the top 1%. Jews appeared to Hitler and the Nazis to be disproportionately (and many believed undeservedly) successful and wealthy. Hitler and the Nazis Confiscated their possessions/wealth (value of about $16 billion, at the time), and shipped them off to concentration Camps.
Another example of Hitler/Nazis subjugating the individual to benefit the collective society. Definitely NOT right-wing ideology.
I would argue that the "right/left" philosophies we think of are not reflective of Nazism or Facism in general. You are picking and choosing specific things here to make your point - but are ignoring their actions. Actions which defined them in our history books.
Left wing philosophy would not allow the behavior of the Nazis, which advocates equality and equal treatment. Nazis and Facists often targeted people on the left and the right.
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I would argue that the "right/left" philosophies we think of are not reflective of Nazism or Facism in general. You are picking and choosing specific things here to make your point - but are ignoring their actions. Actions which defined them in our history books.
Left wing philosophy would not allow the behavior of the Nazis, which advocates equality and equal treatment. Nazis and Facists often targeted people on the left and the right.
Don't you get it? These days, the right are the libertarians (sarcasm)
I would argue that the "right/left" philosophies we think of are not reflective of Nazism or Facism in general. You are picking and choosing specific things here to make your point - but are ignoring their actions.
Their actions? Confiscating individuals' possessions/wealth to benefit the collective society. Confiscating privately-owned guns to disarm its citizens. Subjugating the individual to the benefit of the collective society, up to and including mass genocide/democide to specifically further that purpose. Those are three pretty heavy duty actions, NONE of which are right-wing ideology.
To what specific right-wing actions are you referring?
Their actions? Confiscating individuals' possessions/wealth to benefit the collective society. Confiscating privately-owned guns to disarm its citizens. Subjugating the individual to the benefit of the collective society, up to and including mass genocide/democide to specifically further that purpose. Those are three pretty heavy duty actions, NONE of which are right-wing ideology.
To what specific right-wing actions are you referring?
As I said before:
I would argue that the "right/left" philosophies we think of are not reflective of Nazism or Facism in general. You are picking and choosing specific things here to make your point - but are ignoring their actions, which are not "left wing" in nature.
Some scholars consider fascism to be right-wing because of its social conservatism and its authoritarian means of opposing egalitarianism.[44][45] Roderick Stackelberg places fascism—including Nazism, which he says is "a radical variant of fascism"—on the political right by explaining: "The more a person deems absolute equality among all people to be a desirable condition, the further left he or she will be on the ideological spectrum. The more a person considers inequality to be unavoidable or even desirable, the further to the right he or she will be".[46]
My personal feeling on this is that Nazism and Facism is neither "right" or "left" in the context of how we think about that political spectrum.
But please, feel free to continue trying to prove that Nazis and people on the "left" are one in the same.
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