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I have a hard time deciding whether the right wingers on this thread trying to claim that Hitler was a left winger because his party was called “National Socialist” are really that ignorant or whether they’re just trying to troll.
You and me both. Although, sometimes it is clearly ignorance.
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I am not sure the point of arguing this. Can we at least agree that both communism and socialism are left ideologies and both are more evil than Nazism and fascism?
Segregation is not a result of current voting patterns.
Current? No. But all those Dem politicians and Dem voters could DO something about if they wanted to. They don't. They're NIMBY racists.
You actually to read the Chicago Magazine article to understand how it happened in Chicago, and why. Stop making irrelevant excuses and try to actually learn the history of the problem.
They were both military dictators who confiscated privately owned possessions and wealth to fund their military dictatorships. Sound familiar? It should. Hitler and the Nazis did exactly the same thing.
No, nazis allowed private corporations remain private. Like I already told you, they actually executed people who promoted the idea of nationalizing corporations. Mao's China simply does not compare to nazi Germany. You are ignorant/naive of history thinking they had similar ideology, goals and views. Nazis hated communists.
Just a little tidbit of info... Chicago's White Dem voters' NIMBY racist agenda persisted WELL into the 1980s:
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In the mid-1980s, one thousand Chicagoans presented an explicit “white ethnic agenda” to Mayor Harold Washington, in a conference that, according to the New York Times, “brought together white groups that had deserted the Democratic Party last year rather than vote for a black mayoral candidate.”
They also insisted that the city implement a home-equity insurance program, because their contention was that if integration occurred, their property values would decline. That home-equity insurance program began in 1988, and continues to exist.
And that's the not too distant actions/history of Chicago's White left-wingers. "Egalitarian," my butt. That's nothing more than a sick joke.
No, nazis allowed private corporations remain private.
No, they didn't. They either confiscated the private corporations Jews owned, or they refused to issue them permits to operate such as in the case of Jew gun manufacturers and sellers.
Please learn some History. Then, you'll be less likely to be duped by deliberately deceptive propaganda.
No, they didn't. They either confiscated the private corporations Jews owned, or they refused to issue them permits to operate such as in the case of Jew gun manufacturers and sellers.
Please learn some History. Then, you'll be less likely to be duped by deliberately deceptive propaganda.
Read up about German corporations like BMW during the war.
If you think robbing Jews of their lives and property is 'socialism' then you are even more ignorant than I thought.
Feel free to believe whatever you want.
I know it is inconvenient for you to find yourself in the same team with neo-nazis screaming "unite the right". Trying to rewrite history won't help you.
No, they didn't. They either confiscated the private corporations Jews owned, or they refused to issue them permits to operate such as in the case of Jew gun manufacturers and sellers.
Please learn some History. Then, you'll be less likely to be duped by deliberately deceptive propaganda.
German industrialists actually funded the Nazis because they were afraid of communism. The Nazis didn’t confiscate their wealth; they got richer.
Trying to cherry pick by pointing out that the Nazi’s confiscated Jewish companies doesn’t bolster your argument. They confiscated Jewish assets because they were vehemently anti-Semitic, not because they were leftists. By the time Hitler came to power, the leftist elements within the National Socialists had been purged or forced into exile. The Strasser brothers fall into that group, as well as Ernst Röhm, who was executed to allay the fears of the military over the strength of the SA.
Read up about German corporations like BMW during the war.
If you think robbing Jews of their lives and property is 'socialism' then you are even more ignorant than I thought.
Confiscation and redistribution. That's at the very heart of socialism/collectivism. It sure as hell isn't right-wing.
So let's recap...
Confiscation of privately-owned businesses, business properties, personal property, and wealth, and the redistribution of such in part to fund a military dictator and favor his sycophants.
Confiscation of guns (gun grabbing, in current terms) and banning the ownership/possession of guns.
Subjugation of the individual to the benefit of the collective society, up to and including mass genocide/democide to specifically further that purpose.
Those are all far-left actions and ideology, not right-wing.
Some of you can't possibly be so dense that you can't recognize the truth.
German industrialists actually funded the Nazis because they were afraid of communism. The Nazis didn’t confiscate their wealth; they got richer.
Read the article I posted. The collective (value of $19 billion at the time) of Jews' wealth was confiscated and used to fund the German military and to favor Hitler's sycophants.
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Trying to cherry pick by pointing out that the Nazi’s confiscated Jewish companies doesn’t bolster your argument. They confiscated Jewish assets because they were vehemently anti-Semitic, not because they were leftists. By the time Hitler came to power, the leftist elements within the National Socialists had been purged or forced into exile. The Strasser brothers fall into that group, as well as Ernst Röhm, who was executed to allay the fears of the military over the strength of the SA.
Explain the gun grabbing and bans (as the left-wing currently wants to do). Explain Hitler's writings, speeches, and actions clearly subjugating the individual to the benefit of the collective society, up to and including mass genocide/democide to specifically further that purpose.
ALL of those are far left actions and ideology.
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