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Old 10-12-2017, 07:38 PM
 
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Current? No. But all those Dem politicians and Dem voters could DO something about if they wanted to. They don't. They're NIMBY racists.

You actually to read the Chicago Magazine article to understand how it happened in Chicago, and why. Stop making irrelevant excuses and try to actually learn the history of the problem.
I'm not making any excuses. I'm well aware of how segregation has manifested itself in America. Did you bother to look at any of the content that I shared with you?

It is a problem in many cities, I am not denying a single thing. I'm actually acknowledging it 100%.


What I am, however, contesting is the notion that its origins are somehow Democratic-specific. This is a national problem, and is most pronounced in older cities that have suburbs that expanded in the mid 20th century. It's no coincidence that these cities have the greatest segregation when looking at historical trends.

Many newer cities don't have as many of the same issues. So then people erroneously look at this and concluded "It's the Democrats!". LOL. What simplistic nonsense.


I also seriously challenge the notion that it is only "liberals" or "conservatives". This issue is a problem universally. And it's not just "NIMBYism" - it went much deeper than that.

As far as today's Democrats somehow changing it - I think you are oversimplifying the problem. I don't see any easy solutions, especially one that enough people could get behind to solve it. The effect of the racist policies of the 20th century and "White Flight" (both which lead to the heavy levels of segregation) are going to have lasting impacts for generations, likely. And yes, it is a travesty.



Why are we talking about this in this thread again? This is very off-topic. Please create a new thread if you would like to discuss this, I'd rather not continue taking this one off the rail.

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Old 10-12-2017, 07:39 PM
 
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Yes, like you claiming right is left, and left is right. It won't make it true.

Neo-nazi war cry: "unite the right".
Try to pin Nazism on the right has been the grand project of the left since the WII.
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Old 10-12-2017, 07:48 PM
 
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Try to pin Nazism on the right has been the grand project of the left since the WII.
Yep....exactly what I've seen. Every group that wants to take rights and control others and have power over others are in the same bucket of not respecting individual rights which is what has made America the greatest nation in the history of the world.
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Old 10-12-2017, 07:49 PM
 
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David Duke is a member and leader of the KKK. David Duke voted Trump. Trump is a conservative. Ergo conservatives are white supremicists.
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Old 10-12-2017, 07:57 PM
 
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Many posters have tried to explain history to you, but you won't listen, or don't get it.
Which of the 3 points I made, ALL left-wing actions and ideology, didn't happen?

So... answer my questions...

How many of you support gun grabbing/bans like Hitler and the Nazis?

How many of you resent the successful and wealthy like Hitler and the Nazis did, and believe more of their assets should be confiscated for redistribution as you see fit?

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Gun grabbing? The gun grabbing laws were enacted by the victors of WW-I.
Wrong. They were revoked in 1928. Weimar Republic.

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Hitler actually loosened gun laws, and later put a rifle in every man's hand.
Every man? You do NOT know history.

1938. Hitler/Nazi Germany.

German:
http://jpfo.org/images02/NaziWeaponLaw1800x2667.gif

English translation:
Nazi Weapons Law of November 11, 1938

It's pointless debating this with you due to your dearth of historical knowledge. No wonder you've been duped.
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Old 10-12-2017, 08:06 PM
 
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Again, Nazism like communism is just another cancerous mutation of leftism. Even within communists, those evil people hate each other. The communists would think the socialists are too kind and not left enough.

The point is that a group can claim whatever they want to claim but it doesn’t make it true.
Very true. Look at the White Chicago Dems and their "White Ethnic Agenda" demands in the 1980s.

The left-wing is supposedly "Egalitarian?" That's just a sick joke.
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Old 10-12-2017, 08:07 PM
 
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Very true. Look at the White Chicago Dems and their "White Ethnic Agenda" demands in the 1980s.

The left-wing is supposedly "Egalitarian?" That's just a sick joke.
David Duke. Voted for Trump. Game set and match.
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Old 10-12-2017, 08:12 PM
 
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Read the article I posted. The collective (value of $19 billion at the time) of Jews' wealth was confiscated and used to fund the German military and to favor Hitler's sycophants.

Explain the gun grabbing and bans (as the left-wing currently wants to do). Explain Hitler's writings, speeches, and actions clearly subjugating the individual to the benefit of the collective society, up to and including mass genocide/democide to specifically further that purpose.

ALL of those are far left actions and ideology.
I don’t have to explain a damned thing, because it is clear you are too ideological, too stubborn or too stupid to carry on a rational conversation. You are like Josef Goebbels in that you think that if you repeat a lie long enough, it becomes the truth.

You couldn’t pass a freshman History Civ Class.
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Old 10-12-2017, 08:12 PM
 
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I'm not making any excuses. I'm well aware of how segregation has manifested itself in America. Did you bother to look at any of the content that I shared with you?
We were discussing Chicago. I gave a link to a very clear description of why Chicago, though heavily left-wing Dem voters, is STILL so segregated. It has a lot to do with the White Chicago Dems and their "White Ethnic Agenda" demands in the 1980s.

The left-wing is supposedly "Egalitarian?" That's just a sick joke.

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Why are we talking about this in this thread again?
Because you cited a "scholar" who claimed that the left-wing is "egalitarian" and therefore Hitler and the Nazis couldn't be left-wing. I cited the Chicago example of the city's White left-wing segregationists, which proves nothing could be further from the truth.
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Old 10-12-2017, 08:13 PM
 
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David Duke is a member and leader of the KKK. David Duke voted Trump. Trump is a conservative. Ergo conservatives are white supremicists.
The left supports violent Communism of BLM, Antifa and la Raza. Communism killed 17x more innocent people than the Nazis killed Jews. Ergo liberals are murderous Communists.
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