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Old 10-29-2017, 07:03 AM
 
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It's common knowledge that the Democrat party was the party of slavery and later Jim Crow. The KKK was the paramilitary wing of the Democrat party and many southern Democrats of prominence were members.
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Old 10-29-2017, 07:28 AM
 
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Ever hear of the "telephone game"?

Document doesn't say he may have been a member. It says someone told someone else that another someone else claimed the Klan had something that showed he had once been a member.
LBJ a member of the KKK?

That's ridiculous - I wouldn't be surprised to learn that he never even laid eyes on a black person until he was in college - if even then. There were certainly no KKK meetings within hundreds of miles of where he was raised and lived. LBJ lived/worked in the Texas Hill Country - thats basically a German community and when he taught school - it was in South Texas and he taught Hispanic kids.

The Texas German communities in Central Texas didn't support slavery and they voted against Texas Secession from the Union. I've said this many times - Nobody is born a Bigot, it is carefully taught. There was nobody to teach LBJ or the people in Central Texas German communities Bigotry against blacks.
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Old 10-29-2017, 08:26 AM
 
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I'm surprised at how much 'legs' this thread has. After all, J. Edgar Hoover only reported having been told by an unnamed person that LBJ had been a member of the KKK.

Recalling the nature of J. Edgar, if he had proof of such, he would have used it.
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Old 10-29-2017, 09:42 AM
 
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Most Dems were Klan members up till the 1960s. Then they decided they needed black votes and presented themselves as the saviors of blacks. It was a brilliant strategy and they garner 90%plus of the black vote.

LBJ sign the War on Poverty which increased fatherless families from 20% to 73% and climbing. The welfare state destroyed the black family---------- so as far as i am concerned all those southern Dems are still Klan members. And the worst type of racism is the one that HRC practices, the condescending and pandering attitude.
The statement I bolded is bass-ackwards, and then still needs an additional word to be historically defensible.

Instead of “Most Dems were Klan members up till the 1960’s” it should read :

Most Klan members were (Southern) Democrats up till the 1960’s.

Most of the Klan members were Southerners. The Republican Party in the South was virtually non-existent in the South until the big segregationist switch, led by Strom Thurmond starting in 1964. The reason they left the Democratic Party was because they could not control it.

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Old 10-29-2017, 09:46 AM
 
Location: Planet Telex
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It wouldn't shock me. Its the Dem way.
I'm pretty sure everyone knew that about the Democratic Party. Unless you're some drug-induced libertarian college student, then maybe it will come as a shock, but most people already know it was the party of KKK.
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Old 10-29-2017, 12:33 PM
 
Location: Greenville SC 'Waterfall City'
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The statement I bolded is bass-ackwards, and then still needs an additional word to be historically defensible.

Instead of “Most Dems were Klan members up till the 1960’s” it should read :

Most Klan members were (Southern) Democrats up till the 1960’s.

Most of the Klan members were Southerners. The Republican Party in the South was virtually non-existent in the South until the big segregationist switch, led by Strom Thurmond starting in 1964. The reason they left the Democratic Party was because they could not control it.
Strom Thurmond was the only segregationist politician that switched so it doesn't make sense to say voters switched. Al Gore's father and Robert Byrd, who was in the KKK, both filibustered the Civil Rights Act of 1964, and neither switched to GOP.


If segregationists simply switched parties, then why don't we have segregation today? Why would switching to GOP make sense if they wanted control of the party?
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Old 10-29-2017, 12:40 PM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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Strom Thurmond was the only segregationist politician that switched so it doesn't make sense to say voters switched. Al Gore's father and Robert Byrd, who was in the KKK, both filibustered the Civil Rights Act of 1964, and neither switched to GOP.

If segregationists simply switched parties, then why don't we have segregation today?
We do. In blue (Dem) cities and states:

Chicago: America's most segregated city - CNN

Chicago Isn't Just Segregated, It Basically Invented Modern Segregation - Chicago Magazine

The most segregated schools may not be in the states you’d expect - The Washington Post
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Old 10-29-2017, 12:43 PM
 
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Democrats were the party of slavery and Jim Crow.

But, that is the past.
So they were to black folks what the Nazis were to Jews. That would be like the Jews voting the Nazi party and explaining it as “well, that’s the Nazis of the 30’s, far different today”.

Just doesn’t wash.
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Old 10-29-2017, 05:58 PM
 
Location: Texas
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This fixation on party is a distraction and typical of revisionists that follow the Lost Cause Doctrine. In fact I'd go as far to say that anybody that tries to push that the Democratic party of today is the same as the Democrats of the Solid South likely believe the Civil War had nothing to do about slavery or abolition, but about Northern Aggression against a victimized Confederacy.
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Old 10-29-2017, 06:06 PM
 
Location: Greenville SC 'Waterfall City'
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On economics, taxes, spending, etc , the Democratic Party is similar to what it was back then. It also still uses race and identity politics to win elections.
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