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Better check on that. Last I looked, slavery wasn't legal in Pennsylvania or New England. Several more quickly came around and by the start of the Civil War, slave holding states were in the minority.
Furthermore, the writers of the Constitution knew that slave holding areas would soon be in the minority and therefore wrote the "a slave equal 3/5ths. of a person" clause into into it for the purpose of getting the Southerners who were already in the minority to go along. The South needed that artificial white population boost to even begin to keep up. That, and the electoral college.
For a republic, the US is sure unevenly representative. Think of how many people a senator from Wyoming represents and compare it to how many a senator from California represents. The electoral college works on the same principal: unequal representation. Boosting rural and slave states' representation in Congress was the original reason.
Nope. First free state was Vermont on its admission in 1791. Virtually all the northern states were free by 1804.
The people who moan about the electoral college and the political strength of rural areas don't understand US political history. There would never have been a United States if the rural states weren't given equal footing with the populous states. Period. Full stop. So if you want a US, you'd better come to terms with strong rural areas because it's been baked in from the beginning.
Amusingly enough, the leftists have inadvertently been doing their best to strengthen the rural areas by congregating in a handful of giant cities. Because of the electoral college, all of their extra votes in New York and CA don't mean jack squat.
Oh. I was under the impression that conservatives were actual people. Guess I was wrong.
I am actually a balloon animal made by a birthday clown tripping on LSD. And I will always resent that clown for where he chose to put the balloon knot.
Why do conservatives hold engineers in such high regard? In fact, it seems to be the only profession conservatives hold in high regard aside from law enforcement and military.
Because it frequently interfaces with the military. I agree. It is probably the only profession they like or trust. Engineers are a vital cog in the wheel of the Military Industrial Complex.
In education, engineering schools teach things that are not politically charged and do not require critical thought or nuanced thinking. Polytechnic universities and institutes of technology, are the only elite college that the right seems to approve of.
They also like professions in the Allied Heath fields - hearth informatics, hospital administration, nursing, medical records, radiological technology etc.
They deem these subject as "safe" for their children to study, because they probably will not encounter much philosophy, history, psychology, sociology, cultural anthropology, literature or art history.
These subjects contain shades of gray. They are nuanced. The right hates nuance.
They seem OK with the study of music. I have not quite figured that out yet. As well as K-12 education.
They hate any flexible degree or profession that does not pigeon hole a person for the rest of their lives.
Special hatred appears to be reserved for majors that include "pre-law", social work, or anything that does not yield an automatic job upon graduation.
The right does not like self exploration. To put it mildly. And, they do not appear to be fans of graduate school, either.
Why would an educated person live in a rural area among Trump supporters. It's almost like natural selection.
I can only speak personally. Originally a "coastal" person, I moved to the small-city Midwest, for professional considerations. This was a smart career move, but utterly stupid in terms of lifestyle preferences. I compounded the stupidity by moving to the countryside, because I didn't want to deal with the high taxes of the city, or the homeowner-association mentality of the suburbs.
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Originally Posted by War Beagle
The people who moan about the electoral college and the political strength of rural areas don't understand US political history. There would never have been a United States if the rural states weren't given equal footing with the populous states. Period. Full stop. So if you want a US, you'd better come to terms with strong rural areas because it's been baked in from the beginning.
You’re absolutely right. But this begs a deeper question: if our system is the result of what was necessary and expedient in 1787, why do we behold that compromise, 240 years later, as having been anything more than a mere compromise? Why do we regard is being unassailably noble and sacrosanct?
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Because it frequently interfaces with the military. I agree. It is probably the only profession they like or trust. Engineers are a vital cog in the wheel of the Military Industrial Complex.
In education, engineering schools teach things that are not politically charged and do not require critical thought or nuanced thinking. Polytechnic universities and institutes of technology, are the only elite college that the right seems to approve of.
My field, aeronautical (or aerospace) engineering, is ineluctably immersed in defense. One of the most shocking realizations for me, was how many of my fellow engineers were the first in their family to go to college, and how many have agricultural or blue-collar backgrounds.
It's funny seeing rural America call the educated "elitist" while pretending they are home to cities of the most educated.
Rural America doesn't call educated city people "elitist" because they are educated. They call them "elitist" because they can always be counted on to be snotty, condescending, arrogant snobs that look down their noses at people in rural areas. Has nothing to do with their education.
I didn't see any posts that said "the south is not smart." I did see posts that mentioned the rural South, but the rural South is only a part of the South albeit a large part. Most people understand that there are places like Atlanta, Charlotte, Raleigh and Dallas in the South.
THe quote below is just a few pages back......uneducated in a rural area, would be "not smart" yes?
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Originally Posted by Seacove
Why would an educated person live in a rural area among Trump supporters. It's almost like natural selection.
I never said anything about Forbes. I asked why conservatives hold engineers in such high regard because it seems conservatives frequently bring them up.
Not the point. I did not say you said anything about Forbes....
Show us posts where conservatives bring up Engineers....frequently.....I'll wait.....
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