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You are wrong, they are not planning on doing anything at this point. It's under consideration. A few of their largest solar manufacturers are asking for it, while others are hotly contesting it.
Other countries should lock out the Chinese like their steel and starve their industries of buyers. Chinese have been know for dumping many of their products on the open market at extremely cheap prices due to their over production and subsidizing by the state.
I thought the law was such, that a president could only slap a 15% tariff, for about six months, unless we are at war. After five or six months I thought he needs approval from Congress to extend the tariff, or increase the amount.
So what law is he using to impose this tariff??
The trouble with tariffs, is you might make one small sector of the business economy happy, while a lot of other industries and companies get burnt.
I remember when the steel unions got our government to agree to impose a tariff on imported steel. Sure it saved some union steelworker union jobs, but other companies failed. Companies making belt buckles, chains, paper clips, nuts, screws bolts, etc.. went under, because they were already struggling to compete with overseas business in third world countries. Increasing the cost of steel, or any product, by 30% can be the make-or-break of a US company, struggling in a highly competitive industry.
So, we will gain 900 jobs, but as the price point of panels go up we will lose thousands of installation jobs we might otherwise have because of the increased price point. This is pretty basic economics. So your argument is both insulting to others, and completely wrong.
As for losing these jobs....I honestly do not care. We are getting close to full employment.
But resolving things like this should have been done a long time ago before it basically allowed China to dominate the market. Before it forced a ton of technology transfer to them. They've never acted like reasonable trade partners, nor will they. 30% doesn't even come close to fixing this, or resolving the underlying issues. Its closing the barn door after the animals have left. A tariff now is trivial, it would have mattered when they were using government support to eventually takeover a market.
Trump isnt serious about Chinas trade issues yet. But at least this gives me some hope he might be someday.
Just how many jobs do you think are involved in installation. You do realize, I would hope, that solar is not practical in many parts of the US. KS has turned to wind as has some other states.
Seriously, don't they teach economics in high school anymore?
ONE MORE TIME! I am doing my best to inform those that refuse to be informed!
"More American manufacturing jobs not only reduce the unemployment rate, but also expand the tax base to pay for benefits, like Medicare and Social Security. And jobs will come — the Center for Automotive Research estimates that every new job in auto manufacturing supports nine other jobs, from restaurant workers to parts makers."
Seriously, I have not had Economics class since the school year 1970-1971 and I can remember this stuff. And, also what I learned American Government class. Our schools are seriously shortchanging those in their care, no wonder homeschooling is increasing by leaps and bounds!
Not it isn't, it's $1500 additional using 300 watt panels priced at $1/watt which is actually on the low side.
That's got nothing to do with the conversation.
If your cost is $1/watt for the panels, you're getting fleeced. That is way on the high side. Sure, if you listen to SunRun or SolarCity or any installer that wants you to buy panels from them, you're going to overpay.
You can buy a panel right now (from a non-Asian source), that will be well under 50 cents/watt - your final cost. Maybe you forgot about the tax credit?
right winger posters on this site calling someone a communist or socialist , mostly are just brainwashed drones who don't even know what the words mean. And the rest are using the words as weapons to define the left in what they believe are broadly negative terms...
its an unhealthy mix of people who don't have a clue what they are saying, and those who know exactly what they are saying. funny thing is, they both end up saying pretty much the same things.
ie public healthcare is communism.... but public fire fighter service is not???? Weird AF.
Most firefighters here in the US work in Volunteer Fire Departments. And the first FD in the country? Private. Organized by Ben Franklin, actually.
Communism is really about forcing people to support their fellow citizens. It doesn't matter what you call it...socialist, communist...its all just stealing/taking by force.
A decade ago there was an emerging solar manufacturing industry in this country bolstered by massive subsidies. Those massive subsidies are now effectively subsidizing Chinese manufactures. The loss of this industry because of unfair trade practices came under Obama's watch.
The subsidies were no where near what China's did. Conservatives here didn't want this during Bush2 or Obama and still don't want this.
There are individual things Trump does I can support but he is dead wrong on trade. Free trade, while there are some losers, is a slam dunk net positive for all involved.
Exactly. Tariffs are no more than a focused tax in support of a certain industry. Just about everyone else loses in trade wars.
You seriously think that panels made in China are improving the environment? You might want to look up their manufacturing processes and the waste that's produced there.
And isn't this a win, anyway? More panels are made here, gaining jobs?
China has to use their resources and pollute their environment while making us cheap panels. That is good for us.
Yes it is good to create more jobs here. Only doing this with solar we will lose more of other solar related jobs.
Except it's not "free trade". Go back and look at one of my posts that listed the tariffs on US goods China imposes.
It sometimes seems that every country can impose tariffs except us because we're a bad guy if we do.
Impose all the tariffs you want. But doing so shouldn't cost us net jobs at home or inflation.
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