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Old 01-29-2018, 10:46 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Hellion1999 View Post
the I.R.S has them all and New York's government has all his state taxes.......no laws were broken by not releasing them to the public.....try again


We have the FBI and the govermemt spying on Americans but you rather see his tax returns?



Yes I would because he refused to turn them over. No president has done that. So what's he hiding
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Old 01-29-2018, 11:05 PM
 
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This is interesting:

After viewing the memo this morning, Christopher Wray, the FBI Director is reported to felt that it contain many inaccuracies and “facts” that were based on opinions of the writers. Those who have seen the document suggest it reveals what role the unverified anti-Trump “dossier” played in the application for a surveillance warrant on at least one President Trump associate.

FBI Director Views Classified Memo, Says it Inaccurate
There was never any chance of an FBI Director endorsing the validity of memo which hurt the FBI's reputation.
So anything that Wray says on this subject is the most boring quote, not interesting.
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Old 01-29-2018, 11:07 PM
 
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There was never any chance of an FBI Director endorsing the validity of memo which hurt the FBI's reputation.
So anything that Wray says on this subject is the most boring quote, not interesting.
So the entire FBI is corrupt, DOJ is corrupt, the only person we can believe is Devin Nunes?
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Old 01-30-2018, 12:49 AM
 
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So the entire FBI is corrupt, DOJ is corrupt, the only person we can believe is Devin Nunes?
The more power you have, the more tempted you will be.
And who has more power, the FBI or Nunes?
The FBI, far more power.
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Old 01-30-2018, 12:57 AM
 
Location: Phoenix
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Yes I would because he refused to turn them over. No president has done that. So what's he hiding
So you're perfectly fine with using the power of government to illegally spy on Americans for political purposes but you are worried about Trump's tax return which none of yours or anyone's business?


So if the Republicans used the IRS and FBI as weapons against Democrats (like the Democrats did), you would be fine with it as long as you saw Trump's tax return?
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Old 01-30-2018, 01:08 AM
 
Location: The 719
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So you're perfectly fine with using the power of government to illegally spy on Americans for political purposes but you are worried about Trump's tax return which none of yours or anyone's business?


So if the Republicans used the IRS and FBI as weapons against Democrats (like the Democrats did), you would be fine with it as long as you saw Trump's tax return?
They have regressed back to pre-election arguments.
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Old 01-30-2018, 01:18 AM
 
Location: Asia
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Yes I would because he refused to turn them over. No president has done that. So what's he hiding
Nothing.

The Governments (US and NYS) have his returns.

If there were anything wrong, you can bet that Obama's improperly hyper-politicized IRS would have jumped all over Trump.

What about this simple fact eludes your cognitive grasp?

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Old 01-30-2018, 02:14 AM
 
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WLAlJf9WaXI
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Old 01-30-2018, 02:27 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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They have absolutely taken liberties. No arguments here.


But as you said, there actually is a Russian investigation. Government working as designed despite the numerous roadblocks thown at it. Let the investigation come to it's own end and let's objectively look at it's conclusions.


If there is reason to open an investigation into the FBI, Obama or yet another into Hillary, present the facts, and start an honest investigation. Don't just throw out red meat. Our government is supposed to have procedures, class, distinction, respect, and high moral character. All of which has been severely lacking lately.
How can we know any of the usual investigation procedures will work when the FBI and DOJ have been so heavily compromised? Wray has already forced McCabe out based on what's still yet to come in the IG's report, isn't that enough to signal significant wrongdoing if not outright felonies committed at the very highest levels of the Obama Admin, DOJ, and FBI?

https://www.cnn.com/2018/01/29/polit...fbi/index.html
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Old 01-30-2018, 04:05 AM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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They advised him NOT to release some of the JFK files. Yet what did Trump do?
Over fifty years has passed since then. I think it was time.

This has to do with high level government officials using their positions and power and abuse of the law in conducting a spying operation, in a similar manner as the Soviet KGB, and their manipulation of a legal investigation to ensure a favorable outcome for their candidate, while at the same time attempting to ensure an opposing candidate would never be elected.

The citizens of this country have a right to know, and the Congress, as our Representatives, has oversight over all government agencies, and it is their duty to ensure the integrity of these agencies, inform the citizens, and punish the guilty.
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