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In this flu season, it seems that a lot of the deaths in people with flu have been due to sepsis.
That's true and I do wonder how that happens. Many of the deaths seems to also have a co-factor of Strep or MRSA with them.
I am wondering if the patients had these infections all along and when they contracted the flu, it all just overwhelmed what their body was previously keeping in check.
I'm sorry but I refuse to live in fear. One of the few.
Look into Sharyl (not Shari, sorry) Atkinson's research/reporting on how the 2009 *pandemic* evolved... and then was shut down: THE CDC STOPPED COUNTING CASES IN JULY.
Huh? Why? Why would a gov't organization that is called the Centers for Disease Control STOP counting cases of a "pandemic"??? Does that make sense?
No.
The reasoning? Well, we've declared it an epidemic, so it IS an epidemic so we don't need to count no more.
Does that make any SCIENTIFIC SENSE WHATSOEVER?
No.
It'll blow your mind. Seriously. Anyone and EVERYONE posting on this thread needs to learn about it.
In late July, the CDC abruptly advised states to stop testing for H1N1 flu, and stopped counting individual cases. The rationale given for the CDC guidance to forego testing and tracking individual cases was: why waste resources testing for H1N1 flu when the government has already confirmed there's an epidemic?
Some public health officials privately disagreed with the decision to stop testing and counting, telling CBS News that continued tracking of this new and possibly changing virus was important because H1N1 has a different epidemiology, affects younger people more than seasonal flu and has been shown to have a higher case fatality rate than other flu virus strains.
CBS News learned that the decision to stop counting H1N1 flu cases was made so hastily that states weren't given the opportunity to provide input. Instead, on July 24, the Council for State and Territorial Epidemiologists, CSTE, issued the following notice to state public health officials on behalf of the CDC:
"Attached are the Q&As that will be posted on the CDC website tomorrow explaining why CDC is no longer reporting case counts for novel H1N1. CDC would have liked to have run these by you for input but unfortunately there was not enough time before these needed to be posted (emphasis added)."
Look into it. 2009 swine flu *pandemic* *epidemic* *whateveredemic* *nondemic*
You are very fond of making statements without attribution and telling your readers to look it up for themselves.
Here is the entire CDC summary for the 2009 pandemic:
"Once the numbers of cases increased beyond the point where counting of individual cases was practical, on July 23, 2009, CDC reported the number of 2009 cases for the last time. Reporting of 2009 H1N1 hospitalizations and deaths continued. In addition, CDC continued using its traditional surveillance systems to track the progress of the 2009 H1N1 influenza outbreak. Traditional surveillance systems do not count individual cases, but instead monitor activity levels and virus characteristics through a nationwide surveillance system."
Sharyl Attkisson is a serious anti-vax conspiracy theorist. Her bias is evident in the way the excerpt you quoted leaves out vital information. She does not have a clue about epidemiology. She lost her job, by the way, in case you did not read the previous link, because of biased political reporting.
In this flu season, it seems that a lot of the deaths in people with flu have been due to sepsis.
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Originally Posted by ChristineVA
That's true and I do wonder how that happens. Many of the deaths seems to also have a co-factor of Strep or MRSA with them.
I am wondering if the patients had these infections all along and when they contracted the flu, it all just overwhelmed what their body was previously keeping in check.
Sepsis is a non-specific term. It can be caused by the flu virus itself or by a bacterial infection superimposed on the flu. Such superimposed infections happen because the flu virus damages tissue in the respiratory system. It is a bit like scraping your knee and getting an infection in the abraded tissue.
And if you get sick .... it means that your immune system is not working.
What were the death stats in the US for 1957 and 1968? I've never heard of anyone ever mentioning these years as proof of pandemic in the UNITED STATES.
Abstract: "Three worldwide (pandemic) outbreaks of influenza occurred in the 20th century: in 1918, 1957, and 1968. The latter 2 were in the era of modern virology and most thoroughly characterized. All 3 have been informally identified by their presumed sites of origin as Spanish, Asian, and Hong Kong influenza, respectively. They are now known to represent 3 different antigenic subtypes of influenza A virus: H1N1, H2N2, and H3N2, respectively. Not classified as true pandemics are 3 notable epidemics: a pseudopandemic in 1947 with low death rates, an epidemic in 1977 that was a pandemic in children, and an abortive epidemic of swine influenza in 1976 that was feared to have pandemic potential. Major influenza epidemics show no predictable periodicity or pattern, and all differ from one another. Evidence suggests that true pandemics with changes in hemagglutinin subtypes arise from genetic reassortment with animal influenza A viruses."
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I read an update that there were 10,000 cases of flu reported in NJ this year. Although that sounds like a lot, considering the population and density of the state, it's only less than 0.2 percent in the most density populated state. It's still a bad flu year, but it's not like Armageddon.
And what other disease has caused 10,000 cases in NJ in the past few months? Yes, it's a lot of cases.
CDC just came out with their Week 5 report (Week Ending 2/3) and no decline yet. Type B is definitely picking up steam while Type A is decreasing. Out of all the samples tested, 56% were positive for influenza. The amount of people just going to the doctor for any flu-like illness has increased.
Based on all the charts, it looks like we have another 6 weeks of widespread activity.
CDC just came out with their Week 5 report (Week Ending 2/3) and no decline yet. Type B is definitely picking up steam while Type A is decreasing. Out of all the samples tested, 56% were positive for influenza. The amount of people just going to the doctor for any flu-like illness has increased.
Based on all the charts, it looks like we have another 6 weeks of widespread activity.
Look into Sharyl Atkinson. She blew the lid off the 2009 swine flu lies while she was a reporter at CBS. She was doing a story for 20/20 that was killed. Why? All she had were FACTS. She was a true reproter going after a story.
Look into it. Open your eyes. Why are people so afraid to learn FACTS? And why was the story killed?
Look into Sharyl Atkinson. She blew the lid off the 2009 swine flu lies while she was a reporter at CBS. She was doing a story for 20/20 that was killed. Why? All she had were FACTS. She was a true reproter going after a story.
Look into it. Open your eyes. Why are people so afraid to learn FACTS? And why was the story killed?
"The 2017-18 flu season 'unquestionably falls into the bucket of a severe year,' Fauci said."
Link to "a story for 20/20 that was killed"? It sounds as if someone fact checked her story and found out that her version of facts were not facts at all.
What "2009 swine flu lies"? From the link above:
"The CDC has tracked pediatric deaths since 2004, he said, and "since that time, they've ranged from 37 to 171 during regular seasons; the highest was during the 2009 pandemic, when 358 pediatric deaths were reported."
Sharyl Attkisson is not an epidemiologist, she is not a physician, and she does not understand the simplest basic things about influenza statistics. She did not "blow the lid off" anything. She is a common, garden variety conspiracy theorist.
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"The 2017-18 flu season "unquestionably falls into the bucket of a severe year," Fauci said."
Link to "a story for 20/20 that was killed"? It sounds as if someone fact checked her story and found out that her version of facts were not facts at all.
What "2009 swine flu lies"? From the link above:
"The CDC has tracked pediatric deaths since 2004, he said, and "since that time, they've ranged from 37 to 171 during regular seasons; the highest was during the 2009 pandemic, when 358 pediatric deaths were reported."
Sharyl Attkisson is not an epidemiologist, she is not a physician, and she does not understand the simplest basic things about influenza statistics. She did not "blow the lid off" anything. She is a common, garden variety conspiracy theorist.
Sharyl Attkison is an investigative reporter. Trying to discredit anyone who does not come to the same conclusions as the pharmaceutical companies by attacking their credentials and calling them names is not helpful.
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