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How do we know that any of us is even real? Maybe we're all holographs. Maybe we're all figments of the great Cosmos's mind.
Actually you misunderstand the theory. The theory is that the universe we observe is a hologram, CREATED by a more advanced civilization. It doesn't mean WE are ourselves holographs. Its a cosmological theory that actually makes a lot of sense...but don't worry your pretty little head about it - there's actual scientists working on this, and it can be PROVED through testing if it IS actually a hologram.
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You know what I think? I think they failed to prove the "collusion" thing, since the "hacking" thing couldn't be proved either, and "collusion" relied on the hacking. So this is plan C.
Make up some cockamamie story about Russian troll farms, no real people need to exist to even defend themselves with the usual "I'm innocent. I don't know what you're talking about! I wasn't there. It wasn't me. Nobody saw me do it. " that might derail the entire charade by way of lack of proof that could withstand scrutiny (like records produced and kept by telco companies or social media companies - to the extent that (they) couldn't get someone in those companies to collude with them to fake the data). It is the perfect crime. One with defendants conveniently beyond the reach of the law and simultaneously beyond the ability of any American citizen to verify actually even exists.
And since the defendants cannot be secured to answer to the charges, the charges never withstand any scrutiny and the Special Counsel never has to present any Evidence or Proofs of the alleged crimes.
Another one who doesn't understand that Mueller and Rosenstein are Republicans?
No republicans would stack their "investigation" with hard core partisan democrat activists.
What proof is there either is a real Republican? They were appointed by a Republican and kept by democrats. Mueller is an undocumented democrat.
Right, but there is also no evidence that there is, and that's the far more unusual piece of evidence to be missing. You wouldn't EXPECT there to be evidence that a person doesn't exist. You DO expect evidence that a person is a real person. There isn't any reason to conceal any evidence that would substantiate the authentic and real nature of the defendants...other than that there isn't any. These people are not present in the US (how convenient. That way there is no risk of any of them being say, arrested and dragged into court), so the odds they are going to ever be on trial is basically nil.
Again....convenient. You could concoct nearly any narrative around such a situation. The suspect doesn't need to exist for the narrative to be effective. Which is fishy. Julian Assange isn't in the US either. But he's a real person. So is Snowden...also not in the US. But we know they are real people. How is it that nobody knows who these mysterious "russians" are?
Easiest and simplest answer? The one that fits Occam's Razor? There aren't any mysterious Russians. And good luck proving there are!
They might be RINOs. They are certainly Swamp Rats.
Oh I understand phantom, the ingredients for a total fabrication are present and accounted for. I have had the same conversation with a few friends of mine about how convenient it is that these people who have been indicted are not actually living here in the US. I know that they will never go to trial, even if they are real people. However, I haven't actually looked into the whole mess closely enough to say that these people actually don't exist. That's what I'm saying in my earlier post. I have seen no evidence to the contrary of what is being reported. I am not saying that there is just no evidence that these people exist, I'm saying that there is also no evidence that they "don't" exist. I'm not going "all in" on the theory that these are just totally nonexistent people without looking into it further and maybe seeing some evidence to that end. I mean, I agree with you, the whole thing seems fishy. But I simply do not think I have enough information on the subject at this point to cry foul.
How do we know that any of us is even real? Maybe we're all holographs. Maybe we're all figments of the great Cosmos's mind.
You are right. How do any of us know we are ourselves ? Maybe we are someone else, living in an alternate universe. Maybe we are little people, just like ants on an anthill. They think that is the entire world, but here we are looking down on them. Maybe someone is looking down on us the same way.
It would never occur to me to speak as if "ISIS" or "Al Qaeda" were real. They could be, but I have no reliable source of information in that regard. I have no reason to think that 9/11 happened the way the media and government said it did. There was never any reason to believe that Saddam Hussein had WMD.
Much of what we think we know is hearsay, or double, triple, quadruple, quintuple hearsay. And often, as in the instances cited above, the links in the chain of hearsay include the most shameless of liars.
No republicans would stack their "investigation" with hard core partisan democrat activists.
What proof is there either is a real Republican? They were appointed by a Republican and kept by democrats. Mueller is an undocumented democrat.
Look, Mueller could allege anything he wanted to. The alleged miscreants aren't US persons, and aren't in the country. How convenient. The DNC/Swamp could have created every single fictitious person themselves. They sure were talking about it way before anyone had any reason to be suspicious of "foreign interference". It could be them all along. They create the fake personas. They create and manage the fake accounts. They reach out to conservatives, including perhaps people on the Trump campaign.
Then they nark on themselves, and blame Trump.
How could we know this isn't what happened? The entire thing could be just another DNC dirty trick, like their other dirty tricks - like paying mentally ill/homeless to be agitators and incite violence against Trump supporters - we know they actually did that - its on video tape captured by Project Veritas.
We know they sabotaged the Sanders campaign in the primary and rigged it so he couldn't compete. We know that happened.
We know they conspired to obtain the debate questions and give them to Hillary's team to prep. That really happened.
So how do we know this "russian troll farm" thing isn't just another Democrat Dirty Trick?
The truth: we can't know. It fits their pattern of deceptive underhanded sleazy behavior.
What you're suggesting is just like what Trump and his gang have been claiming, ever since he began his election campaign. So of course Trump supporters would be suspicious. People with bad behavior are quick to assume that everyone else does the same. Thieves are always worried that someone will rob them, as it's what they regard as a normal thing to do.
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