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Old 02-21-2018, 07:52 AM
 
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Look, Mueller could allege anything he wanted to.
... as a matter of fact so can you.
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Old 02-21-2018, 07:59 AM
 
Location: East Coast of the United States
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The fact that there were "13" Russians is significant. Such an odd number.

I don't know why.
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Old 02-21-2018, 08:11 AM
 
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Another one who doesn't understand that Mueller and Rosenstein are Republicans?
So is John McCain ... and he too suffers from Trump Derangement Syndrome. That washed up embarrassment hates Trump more than Hillary does.

As for these indictments .... of course Mueller had to come up with something ... does anyone think they’d put on this endless charade only to say ooops ... sorry ... nothing to see here? And, if we are to use any amount of logic and common sense, indicting foreign nationals who will never, ever be here to go to court is a perfect solution for Mueller, given that the unwashed masses see no distinction between an indictment (a formal accusation of wrong doing) and an actual guilty verdict at the conclusion of a trial that will never take place.

What I find so ironic is the feigned outrage over Russian interference using social media and advertising, when the CIA actually provides billions in weapons and support to terrorists in order to militarily overthrow governments around the globe, by force. Some of which includes former Soviet block countries.

OMG ... the Rooskies handed Trump the presidency via Facebook .... while CNN, MSNBC, NYT, WAPO, DNC, FBI, CIA, NSA, DOJ, POTUS, etc. did everything they could to smear Trump, block Trump, create rumor and innuendo and fabricated scandals and ILLEGAL surveillance for 18+ months, in Oder to subvert our democratic process

It’s like a bank robber trying to frame a 5 year old for shoplifting a piece of candy.
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Old 02-21-2018, 08:12 AM
 
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And you know they will never be prosecuted how? Foreigners are routinely prosecuted for crimes they commit. If they fail to appear in court they can be convicted anyway and apprehended at some later date if they travel.

Important right now is to establish the facts and put on record that these crimes exist.

No irresponsible person can any longer claim that the activity of the Russians is a "Hoax". It is real, it is dangerous to our republic, and it could (probably will) be tried again. This is a threat we must be prepared for, and defend our nation against, not deny and ignore.
Because they are IN RUSSIA!
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Old 02-21-2018, 08:31 AM
 
Location: alexandria, VA
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The fact that there were "13" Russians is significant. Such an odd number.

I don't know why.
And now Jared Kushner's (Trump's son-in-law) building at 666 5th Ave. has become part of the saga. Weird.
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Old 02-21-2018, 08:33 AM
 
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And you know they will never be prosecuted how? Foreigners are routinely prosecuted for crimes they commit. If they fail to appear in court they can be convicted anyway and apprehended at some later date if they travel.

Important right now is to establish the facts and put on record that these crimes exist.

No irresponsible person can any longer claim that the activity of the Russians is a "Hoax". It is real, it is dangerous to our republic, and it could (probably will) be tried again. This is a threat we must be prepared for, and defend our nation against, not deny and ignore.
There will be no trial either.
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Old 02-21-2018, 08:49 AM
 
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And now Jared Kushner's (Trump's son-in-law) building at 666 5th Ave. has become part of the saga. Weird.
I never felt comfortable about him .... there is something off about Kushner ... like a hidden agenda that isn’t in Trump’s best interests....
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Old 02-21-2018, 10:24 AM
 
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I don't personally really have an opinion on whether they are real. It is glaringly obvious that Trump believes they are real, and that it puts him one step closer to impeachment and criminal charges. If the DNC did it, Kudos! It means they are getting pretty good at this counterespionage thing.

You need to tweet Donnie and tell him he has nothing to worry about.
Well it isn't a "counterespionage" thing if they just MADE IT UP in the first place! It's just a fraud, a deception. Which is FAR more likely than russians meddling just to "create discord"? That makes ZERO sense...look at who in this country has been creating discord...the DNC/left. Every time. So it fits THEIR pattern of behavior...nobody else's.

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And you know they will never be prosecuted how? Foreigners are routinely prosecuted for crimes they commit. If they fail to appear in court they can be convicted anyway and apprehended at some later date if they travel.

Important right now is to establish the facts and put on record that these crimes exist.

No irresponsible person can any longer claim that the activity of the Russians is a "Hoax". It is real, it is dangerous to our republic, and it could (probably will) be tried again. This is a threat we must be prepared for, and defend our nation against, not deny and ignore.
Because we don't have an extradition treaty with Russia....first of all. And second of all because there isn't any evidence these are even real people!

You are ASSUMING facts not in evidence. You believe everything Robert Mueller and his band of democrat shark say? Why? What reason have you got to extend him any credibility?
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Old 02-21-2018, 10:32 AM
 
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So is John McCain ... and he too suffers from Trump Derangement Syndrome. That washed up embarrassment hates Trump more than Hillary does.

As for these indictments .... of course Mueller had to come up with something ... does anyone think they’d put on this endless charade only to say ooops ... sorry ... nothing to see here? And, if we are to use any amount of logic and common sense, indicting foreign nationals who will never, ever be here to go to court is a perfect solution for Mueller, given that the unwashed masses see no distinction between an indictment (a formal accusation of wrong doing) and an actual guilty verdict at the conclusion of a trial that will never take place.

What I find so ironic is the feigned outrage over Russian interference using social media and advertising, when the CIA actually provides billions in weapons and support to terrorists in order to militarily overthrow governments around the globe, by force. Some of which includes former Soviet block countries.

OMG ... the Rooskies handed Trump the presidency via Facebook .... while CNN, MSNBC, NYT, WAPO, DNC, FBI, CIA, NSA, DOJ, POTUS, etc. did everything they could to smear Trump, block Trump, create rumor and innuendo and fabricated scandals and ILLEGAL surveillance for 18+ months, in Oder to subvert our democratic process

It’s like a bank robber trying to frame a 5 year old for shoplifting a piece of candy.
The fact they were talking about "russian meddling" long before there was any evidence of it, makes it fairly obvious they planned whatever meddling there is. They (swamp/Deep State) most likely ARE the Russian meddlers. All the evidence points towards that. Let's review.

1. The allegedly russian-hacked server they wouldn't let anyone see. Which turned out not to have been hacked at all, but instead had the data transferred from it physically via a high-speed direct connection
2. the missing 30,000 emails they wouldn't produce
3. the fact they insisted (and the FBI agreed) to destroy the servers and devices that WERE produced (why...this is a FIRST in the world of investigations)
4. The fact they were talking about russian meddling long before there was any evidence or anything that would have led someone to suspect foreign interference .....why? Because they needed it as a smear point in the campaign.
5. The fact that the FBI was talking about an "insurance policy" .An insurance policy is something that kicks in when your main plan fails.
6. The fact that THEY sent a Russian lawyer into the Trump campaign to talk about having potentially damaging information.
7. The fact they denied that they had wiretapped Trump, and tried to cover up the surveillance.
8. The fact they lied and perpetrated a fraud upon the FISA court in order to get a warrant to do the surveillance


There are so many more...all of which are damning on their own but taken in their entirety, are basically conclusive.
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Old 02-21-2018, 11:18 AM
 
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The narrative that it is more likely that the former FBI director and the deep state have concocted "fake" Russians to prosecute than it is that Russians using internet trolls like they have done in numerous other countries is unintentionally hilarious.
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