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Old 02-21-2018, 11:41 AM
 
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it doesnt matter, like rush was saying last week, they have to blame somebody, they cant just say " we have nothing" that why the big deal about lying to fbi agents and other charges that doesnt have anything to do with trump. They got to pin someone so they justifly the money spend. and what better way, charge somebody, nobody knows.
Yeah, Rush knows. Pfffftttt. What a joke.
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Old 02-21-2018, 11:54 AM
 
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The narrative that it is more likely that the former FBI director and the deep state have concocted "fake" Russians to prosecute than it is that Russians using internet trolls like they have done in numerous other countries is unintentionally hilarious.
Citation needed.

And are you aware the US has done exactly what you are accusing the Russians of doing?

So is it more likely that its got a US source (when it happened HERE) than them? Think about it.

They claim "the Russians" traveled here. Ok, then let's see their photo from the TSA camera you have to stand in front of and have your picture taken from 12 inches away when you come in. Let's have it! Let's have the scan of the passport from when they went through the same line, because you gotta do that too.

Let's have it. If they really exist, there should be no harm in releasing that info to the public. These people aren't even in the US at all, so if they really are spies and infiltrators then the entire population of Americans should know who they are (or claim to be) and what they look like, right?

No...you're never going to see that ...because it DOES NOT EXIST.
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Old 02-21-2018, 11:59 AM
 
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Citation needed.
Remember the whole "we're family" nonsense from Cruz? Do you remember the topic that brought it up? They were discussing the sophistication of Russias activities in the Ukraine.

But this has been well known for a while. Im surprised you are asking the other poster for a citation on something that if you are a follower of politics at all, you should be familiar with this.
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Old 02-21-2018, 02:47 PM
 
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And you know they will never be prosecuted how? Foreigners are routinely prosecuted for crimes they commit. If they fail to appear in court they can be convicted anyway and apprehended at some later date if they travel.

Important right now is to establish the facts and put on record that these crimes exist.

No irresponsible person can any longer claim that the activity of the Russians is a "Hoax". It is real, it is dangerous to our republic, and it could (probably will) be tried again. This is a threat we must be prepared for, and defend our nation against, not deny and ignore.
Thats insane.
First off NOBODY changed their vote to Trump because of anything the Russians leaked on Hillary. Her supporters have made an art form of covering up the crimes of her and her husband.
Secondly the meddling in the election by the DNC was far greater.
Thirdly the US has had as official policy overthrowing govts around the world. Us making a big issue over something far less happening to us makes us look like hypocrites and crybabies.
Lastly the witch hunt has taken its course and you got nothing on Trump. Let him run the country and stop patronizing us with this dramatic feigned outrage.
Russia is not our enemy. They probably wanted Trump because he wants to do business not grandstand about human rights issues in Russia's back yard as democrats are so fond of doing.
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Old 02-21-2018, 03:01 PM
 
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Remember the whole "we're family" nonsense from Cruz? Do you remember the topic that brought it up? They were discussing the sophistication of Russias activities in the Ukraine.

But this has been well known for a while. Im surprised you are asking the other poster for a citation on something that if you are a follower of politics at all, you should be familiar with this.
Just "laying the groundwork" to accuse the Russians of doing the same thing in the US. All of that began during the campaign. Find a source that talks about it beforehand. You won't find one. You WILL find plenty of articles published AFTER the fact claiming to have had prior knowledge of it well BEFORE the campaign. Its the same thing as the email that Susan Rice sent herself on her last day, this is after the inauguration, basically just leaving a paper trail reconfirming her version of the cover story on Russia, involving a WH meeting at which she was present, James Comey was present, and Obama was present. A meeting which Comey omitted from testimony. Anyway, there was absolutely no reason for her to do that and especially not to leave it til the day of the inauguration. The only reason it was sent was so that it would be there should anyone look. The reason why that was a concern for them ? They never had documented it on email or any other recoverable fashion previously because what she claimed happened never actually happened. The "policy" she refers to hearing about in the conversation of January 5 never ever existed. And, she didn't know if the first thing Trump might do is fire her and the rest of them, which would cut off her access from the email systems, and prevent her from leaving that cookie crumb. Its a total CYA move. http://dailycaller.com/2018/02/13/co...ecret-meeting/

Face it, the DNC coked up the Russian cyber-bogeyman, put on the bogeyman suit, did some stuff, and then blamed the Russians. Complete with supposedly leaving a Cyrillic document in one of the systems they penetrated. Yah...riiiight. That's the cyber equivalent of dropping your wallet with your Drivers License in the bank vault you just robbed.

The entire tale is just the most far-fetched thing imaginable. State-actors don't make idiotic mistakes like leaving a document in their own language behind (in fact there's no reason a sophisticated hacker would ever LEAVE anything behind at all - the entire idea of a successful op is that the target never even realizes that anyone has gained unauthorized access)

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Old 02-21-2018, 03:02 PM
 
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The continued repetition of lies about Hillary in this forum is ample demonstration. Uranium One, Benghazi, Haiti, Pizzagate -- they're all Russian propaganda, and you still believe them.
https://mobile.nytimes.com/2015/04/2...m-company.html

Russian propaganda? Really? Why would they do that when the story implicates them ?

Hillary was the most obviously corrupt candidate in recent US history. Your covering up for her is tantamount to co conspiracy in her crimes. Nice.
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Old 02-21-2018, 03:14 PM
 
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Hillary was the most obviously corrupt candidate in recent US history. Your covering up for her is tantamount to co conspiracy in her crimes. Nice.
Funny that you're parroting Russian propaganda in the same breath that you claim it's had no effect. Hillary's never been convicted of anything. Trump on the other hand has admitted guilt to a $25 MILLION fraud in the Trump University scam. Where's your outrage there, comrade?
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Old 02-21-2018, 03:19 PM
 
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Funny that you're parroting Russian propaganda in the same breath that you claim it's had no effect. Hillary's never been convicted of anything. Trump on the other hand has admitted guilt to a $25 MILLION fraud in the Trump University scam. Where's your outrage there, comrade?
Right, because she was never charged even though the evidence of her guilt existed. Obama, Lynch, and Comey conspired to exonerate her by just looking the other way, and changing the language of the statute so that what she did appeared not to be a violation. When it clearly WAS, and she SHOULD have been charged.
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Old 02-21-2018, 03:23 PM
 
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Right, because she was never charged even though the evidence of her guilt existed. Obama, Lynch, and Comey conspired to exonerate her by just looking the other way, and changing the language of the statute so that what she did appeared not to be a violation. When it clearly WAS, and she SHOULD have been charged.
Yeah, sure...

But thanks for reminding me of one more thing. In all the years of partisan investigations of her (that have turned up nothing), and countless hours of testimony, she never once refused to answer questions or plead the fifth. Put that in your partisan pipe and smoke it.

And BTW, I'm no fan of Hillary and didn't vote for her in the primaries. If she's guilty of anything, then lock her up! But right now we're investigating Russia interference in the election, and Trump is acting guilty as hell. Anyone who calls themselves an American should be deeply concerned about finding out the truth about that as well.
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Old 02-21-2018, 03:34 PM
 
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Right, because she was never charged even though the evidence of her guilt existed. Obama, Lynch, and Comey conspired to exonerate her by just looking the other way, and changing the language of the statute so that what she did appeared not to be a violation. When it clearly WAS, and she SHOULD have been charged.
Comey explained in detail why he wasn't indicting her over emails, you should be more concerned that Kushner has access to secret documents every day not just a few classified emails. Maybe he needs to be charged along with some other cabinet members for violating security protocols.
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