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My question is not answered. I am very easy to be reasoned with, actually. You already have an opinion of me and will do everything to discredit me.
I have already said it many times before, nothing needs to be said between you and I.
Now I'm offended by your remark. I put forth facts and asked you to show me mass vehicular manslaughters and mass stabbings with the same body count. You have failed to do so. The factor is the tool used, not just the individual. I think mass stabbings only stab about five people before the perpetrators is subdued. A car, people can avoid in most cases decreasing the body count. But a gun, can get we as a society are too stupid to realize this.
Now I'm offended by your remark. I put forth facts and asked you to show me mass vehicular manslaughters and mass stabbings with the same body count. You have failed to do so. The factor is the tool used, not just the individual. I think mass stabbings only stab about five people before the perpetrators is subdued. A car, people can avoid in most cases decreasing the body count. But a gun, can get we as a society are too stupid to realize this.
why are you offended? I am simply saying I don't want to talk to you.
A person who exhibits any sword, sword cane, firearm, electric weapon or device, destructive device, or other weapon as defined in s. 790.001(13), including a razor blade, box cutter, or common pocketknife, except as authorized in support of school-sanctioned activities, in the presence of one or more persons in a rude, careless, angry, or threatening manner
Unless he was threatening other students with the knife, then it would be very hard to hit him with a felony charge. Probably why they didn't.
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(2)(a)A person shall not possess any firearm, electric weapon or device, destructive device, or other weapon as defined in s. 790.001(13), including a razor blade or box cutter, except as authorized in support of school-sanctioned activities, at a school-sponsored event or on the property of any school, school bus, or school bus stop; however, a person may carry a firearm:
1. In a case to a firearms program, class or function which has been approved in advance by the principal or chief administrative officer of the school as a program or class to which firearms could be carried;
2. In a case to a career center having a firearms training range; or
3. In a vehicle pursuant to s. 790.25(5); except that school districts may adopt written and published policies that waive the exception in this subparagraph for purposes of student and campus parking privileges.
For the purposes of this section, “school” means any preschool, elementary school, middle school, junior high school, secondary school, career center, or postsecondary school, whether public or nonpublic.
(b) A person who willfully and knowingly possesses any electric weapon or device, destructive device, or other weapon as defined in s. 790.001(13), including a razor blade or box cutter, except as authorized in support of school-sanctioned activities, in violation of this subsection commits a felony of the third degree
3rd degree felony. He should have been arrested and prosecuted. And with a felony conviction on his record, he never would have passed a background check to buy a gun.
(2)(a)A person shall not possess any firearm, electric weapon or device, destructive device, or other weapon as defined in s. 790.001(13), including a razor blade or box cutter, except as authorized in support of school-sanctioned activities, at a school-sponsored event or on the property of any school, school bus, or school bus stop; however, a person may carry a firearm:
1. In a case to a firearms program, class or function which has been approved in advance by the principal or chief administrative officer of the school as a program or class to which firearms could be carried;
2. In a case to a career center having a firearms training range; or
3. In a vehicle pursuant to s. 790.25(5); except that school districts may adopt written and published policies that waive the exception in this subparagraph for purposes of student and campus parking privileges.
For the purposes of this section, “school” means any preschool, elementary school, middle school, junior high school, secondary school, career center, or postsecondary school, whether public or nonpublic.
(b) A person who willfully and knowingly possesses any electric weapon or device, destructive device, or other weapon as defined in s. 790.001(13), including a razor blade or box cutter, except as authorized in support of school-sanctioned activities, in violation of this subsection commits a felony of the third degree
3rd degree felony. He should have been arrested and prosecuted. And with a felony conviction on his record, he never would have passed a background check to buy a gun.
Keep in mind he was also a minor and it never appeared that anyone pressed charge against him. From what I have obtained. The story about him bringing knives to school appears to only come from one source, a former class mate of Cruz. Apparently that was the reason for his expulsion but this information as far as I am aware has not been confirmed. The school authorities may have caught wind he was selling knives and used it as justification to expel him but he may never have been directly caught. Hence no charges were ever filed.
We cannot rely on law enforcement to do their job 100% perfect all the time in order to avoid mass shootings. Its just not gonna happen. In a country with strict gun control, Cruz would have never been able to get his hands on a gun.
Keep in mind he was also a minor and it never appeared that anyone pressed charge against him.
Minors can be convicted of a felony. Some even commit murder.
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From what I have obtained. The story about him bringing knives to school appears to only come from one source, a former class mate of Cruz.
There's a J-ROTC source reporting the exact same thing, as well. Look around a little more.
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Apparently that was the reason for his expulsion but this information as far as I am aware has not been confirmed. The school authorities may have caught wind he was selling knives and used it as justification to expel him but he may never have been directly caught. Hence no charges were ever filed.
We cannot rely on law enforcement to do their job 100% perfect all the time in order to avoid mass shootings. Its just not gonna happen. In a country with strict gun control, Cruz would have never been able to get his hands on a gun.
Pure BS. How do you think Chicago's, Baltimore's, etc., gangbanger thugs get the guns they're not supposed to have even though those cities have "strict gun control?" You see... and this may come as a shock to you... CRIMINALS DON'T OBEY LAWS OR "REGULATIONS."
It's important to inform yourself as to WHY Cruz was suspended multiple times, and eventually expelled, but was never arrested and always deferred away FROM the Broward Justice System. Read the following...
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We already have sensible gun control laws.
So, WHY didn't they prevent the Parkland shooting? Read the background info...
For those who didn't know HOW and WHY Cruz was able to pass a background check and therefore able to buy the gun in the Parkland shooting, this is what happened...
The reason Cruz was able to buy the gun he used to kill 17 in Florida is because due to an Obama/Holder-era program implemented in Broward, teen criminals were deliberately kept OUT of the justice system to preserve a clean criminal record. So, despite the fact that the police had to be called nearly 40 times to intervene in Cruz's criminal acts, Cruz had no record. It was clean. He was able to pass a background check and buy a gun.
This entire video is important to watch, but Broward officials state in their own words why teen criminals are deliberately kept OUT of the justice system and therefore able to maintain clean criminal records, beginning at 1:15...
What the students SHOULD be protesting is their own schools' 'shelter the teen criminals' policies placing them at risk.
Both Obama and Holder 'waxed poetic' on ending the "school-to-prison pipeline" as a social justice imperative, and Broward's "Promise Plan" is one of several (50+) implemented in school districts in conjunction with local law enforcement agencies throughout the country.
What's even MORE sick is that Broward officials KNEW this was a disaster waiting to happen, and did NOTHING to prevent it...
Very prescient words, from 2015:
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"Maria Schneider, head of the juvenile unit in the Broward State Attorney's Office, said the program was "a work in progress."
"We've accomplished reducing the arrests. Now it's 'how do we keep that up without making the schools a more dangerous place,'" she said."
Student suspensions rise and schools get more dangerous when such a program is implemented. Guess why... Teen criminals know they won't get arrested, won't go to jail, won't have a criminal record for any criminal acts anymore. All they'll get is suspended from school. BFD. What teen delinquent doesn't want to not have to go to school in the first place? Sheer stupidity! From the government and adults who are supposed to be in charge.
Because that tool is being used regularly to mass murder people. We can't control who is crazy and who is not but we can reduce the destructive impact a maniac can unleash on the general public. Its a very simple concept that we apply to hundreds of items. From industrial acids to nuclear materials. Its bizarre how people can accept that not allowing nuclear materials in the hands of the general public is a good idea but don't see how this also makes sense when applied to certain firearms.
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Yep, nailed it.
You've nailed zero....pistols kill far more people, adding to that fact, hands and feet, bats, and blunt objects kill far more than that mean old black rifle...
Both of you have been provided the link to FBI stats that clearly provide these numbers, yet you continue to push crap....
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