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Old 03-25-2018, 08:45 AM
 
Location: Texas Hill Country
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Originally Posted by TKO View Post
Except for the Tide Pod(really, how many kids do you think are actually doing that?) slamming an entire generation for a stupid fad that pretty much has already gone away, I applaud your take on it. Your husband (and me as a middle aged, pot bellied, gun owning democrat) are not the problem.

The over availability of guns is the problem. We need to try and do whatever we can to fix that, and some solutions might not be perfect but you can't know if you don't try. Those on the right that are extremely recalcitrant about any change whatever are the problem.
Well, that is not it.

The thing is when it comes to gun control, those on that side just keep coming. They don't stop when they get what they want, they always come back for more.

We've seen it through history and we are rather tired of it. So now we are saying no more.

 
Old 03-25-2018, 08:46 AM
 
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Why would I? That’s been detailed many times on this board. I’m not about to lay out examples for you. Look it up if you’re uninformed.
Why would you? You're in a discussion, that you seem to know nothing about and you've backed yourself up very nicely.



But it sounds cool, so I'm just gonna repeat it and then when asked to define your position, you say go look it up.

Last edited by CaseyB; 03-25-2018 at 09:11 AM.. Reason: name calling
 
Old 03-25-2018, 08:47 AM
 
Location: Morrison, CO
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Said the person who does not understand the direct relationship between a lobbyist organization and the manufacturers it represents and is funded by. Are two logic steps beyond your comprehension?

NRA advocates for manufacturers, NRA gets more money. It really is not that difficult.
Wrong. The NRA gets most of its money from INDIVIDUAL MEMBERS who may membership dues, and make separate donations to the NRA. They are also a very small lobbying group, and political donor compared to these.

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1. ActBlue
ActBlue is a federally registered political action committee that was launched in 2004. It calls itself "the online clearinghouse for Democratic action."
The group donated $97,192,340 between 1989 and 2012, according to CRP. Ninety-nine percent of its contributions went to Democrats.
2. American Federation of State, County, and Municipal Employees
The American Federation of State, County, and Municipal Employees comprises 3,400 local unions representing 1.6 million members as well as 240,000 retirees.
The organization donated $60,667,379 between 1989 and 2012, with 81 percent going to Democrats.
3. AT&T (on the fence)
AT&T is the most-used phone company in the United States, according to CRP. It covers close to 300 million people.
The company donated $56,449,317 between 1989 and 2012. AT&T was marked as "on the fence" by CRP, having donated 41 percent to Democrats and 57 percent to Republicans.
4. National Education Association
The National Education Association is the nation’s oldest and largest teachers’ union.
It donated $53,594,488 between 1989 and 2012. Sixty-one percent went to Democrats, and just 4 percent went to Republicans.
5. National Association of Realtors (on the fence)
The National Association of Realtors represents 1.2 million members from the nation’s real estate industry. The group has lobbied on many issues such as health care, bankruptcy legislation, and tax rates.
The group donated $51,207,902 between 1989 and 2012, with 44 percent going to Democrats and 47 percent going to Republicans.
6. Goldman Sachs (on the fence)
Goldman Sachs is an investment bank. It received billions of dollars in federal taxpayer money during the 2008 bailout.
Goldman Sachs donated $44,847,951 between 1989 and 2012. Fifty-three percent of its donations went to Democrats, while 44 percent went to Republicans.
7. International Brotherhood of Electrical Workers
The International Brotherhood of Electrical Workers is a labor union that represents more than 750,000 electrical workers. It is affiliated with the AFL-CIO.
The union donated $44,478,789 between 1989 and 2012. Ninety-two percent of its donations went to Democrats.
8. United Auto workers
The United Auto Workers represents more than 100,000 men and women.
The union donated $41,667,858 between 1989 and 2012, with 71 percent of its donations going to Democrats. The UAW did not make a single donation to Republicans, according to CRP.
9. Carpenters and Joiners Union
The Carpenters and Joiners Union is another politically active union. It represents 500,000 carpenters and tradesman nationwide.
The union donated $39,260,371 between 1989 and 2012. Seventy-four percent of its donations went to Democrats.
10. Service Employees International Union
The Service Employees International Union has more than 1.5 million members. It is the largest growing member of the AFL-CIO.
The union donated $38,395,690 between 1989 and 2012. Eight-four percent of its donations went to Democrats, while just 2 percent went to Republicans.
None of the Top 10 Biggest Political Donors are Republican
 
Old 03-25-2018, 08:48 AM
TKO
 
Location: On the Border
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Originally Posted by juneaubound View Post
Then please work on taking guns away from all the criminals in this country. There are too many criminals using too many illegal guns to take part in too many illegal activities. Solve that issue and we'll talk.
Absolutely on board with that. How might present some disagreements I suspect.
 
Old 03-25-2018, 08:48 AM
 
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Originally Posted by lkb0714 View Post
Said the person who does not understand the direct relationship between a lobbyist organization and the manufacturers it represents and is funded by. Are two logic steps beyond your comprehension?

NRA advocates for manufacturers, NRA gets more money. It really is not that difficult.
Post rep for you!
 
Old 03-25-2018, 08:48 AM
 
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Originally Posted by chucksnee View Post
Then how are people lining the pockets of the NRA? About 5 million NRA members......do tell, be specific.

And please, inform us of what "common sense" gun laws would consist of? Again, be specific.
Well an NRA membership is $40 assuming 5 million members .....do you need me to do the math for you?

Common sense gun laws? How about the ability of mental health professionals, school administrators, and so on to flag someone like Nikolas Cruz who has been found to make threats so that his background check would need to include police interviews and maybe even a mental health check? Oh and that same level of background check happen regardless of type of gun or who it is purchased from.
 
Old 03-25-2018, 08:49 AM
TKO
 
Location: On the Border
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Well, that is not it.

The thing is when it comes to gun control, those on that side just keep coming. They don't stop when they get what they want, they always come back for more.

We've seen it through history and we are rather tired of it. So now we are saying no more.
Except that's a false narrative unless you think laws banning full auto machine guns are those first few steps. I'm a democrat and I'll NEVER EVER vote for a democrat who wants to take my guns away. I'm not alone.
 
Old 03-25-2018, 08:50 AM
 
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Originally Posted by TamaraSavannah View Post
Well, that is not it.

The thing is when it comes to gun control, those on that side just keep coming. They don't stop when they get what they want, they always come back for more.

We've seen it through history and we are rather tired of it. So now we are saying no more.
Once again if we focus on the extremes from both sides nothing will get done. As I have stated before there is a majority of Americans that are supportive of better gun control laws and mental health measures. The vast majority of Americans are against No guns and guns without controls.

It is time to leave the extremes.
 
Old 03-25-2018, 08:51 AM
 
Location: Salinas, CA
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hey, he's out there trying to do something. He's more alpha than the losers pounding on a keyboard, cowering behind their bang bangs. What an inspiration...not.
+1!
 
Old 03-25-2018, 08:52 AM
 
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These scare tactics that all Democrats are after all guns and that all Republicans want zero gun control is absurd and only plays into those in power.
Wake up.
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