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Old 04-09-2018, 04:50 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Vector1 View Post
Well if Democrats and those with TDS think it is ok to use some backdoor method to try and take down a president over this, it is putting politics over the country. Mueller was suppose to be looking for Trump & Russian trying to subvert the election. If he is guilty of that, yes it is a big deal and Mueller should pursue it.
However if it can devolve into all sorts of other petty garbage, then it has become a witch hunt.

For example, if a SP were assigned to get Obama on something big, and it was determined he lied about being a foreign student to get admission and low tuition into Occidental, I wouldn't think he should be impeached or an attempt to remove him from office over it.
No (D) would either, and you know it.


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This investigation is putting country over politics.

Some of you keep forgetting, it's all republicans behind the ingratiation.

These are career investigatiors. People who could've received a lot more money working in the private market and instead have spent their careers in public service. Mueller has more public service in one pinky than the entire trump family.

Whether it's in his mandate to explore all other crimes found along the way or not, he is obligated to report any suspicions of criminal activity he finds. All investigators must do so in the event they have reason to believe a crime happened.

This isn't something like someone lying about being a foreign student, they're real crimes. Especially financial ones.

If someone is innocent the courts will find them innocent. If they're not, they'll be found guilty. If they're guilty, then that's their own problem.

It's disgusting we as a country are in this position. The only thing more disgusting is the lot of you trying to ignore the rule of law and excuse people for criminal activity just because they share the same politics as you. If one of these guys raped your daughter would you feel the same way? A crime is a crime is a crime. These are the same people who cheered on the Bengazee investigation. They're just mad now that no indictments were found there and now "their own" are being indicted like flies on a carcass. If these people didn't want to be in this mess each and every one of them could have not knowingly committed the crimes.

 
Old 04-09-2018, 04:50 PM
 
Location: Barrington
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It has become clear recently that the FBI is a key part of the swamp and the swamp is getting desperate.

This looks like an act of desperation. If nothing is found this will be the end of Mueller’s career.
Were you of the same opinion when Bill Clinton was investigated for alleged wrongdoings ten years prior to running for President and the scope continuously expanded?

None of us have access to Mueller's files. We don't know what the investigation knows. It's unreasonable to have any opinion of outcomes without facts.

Speculation on my part is that the investigation will take out many people who associated with Trump's campaign and will not have sufficient evidence to charge Trump, no different than the outcome of the Clinton Whaite Water investigation.

BTW, Mueller is 73 years old and came out of retirement because he was asked to be Special Counsel. Seems to me the very last thing Mueller is concerned about is his career.
 
Old 04-09-2018, 04:51 PM
 
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A judge separate from the Mueller investigstion saw enough evidence to approve a warrant for Cohen's office.

Thats how the law works. A witch hunt? Hardly.
 
Old 04-09-2018, 04:51 PM
 
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The rule of law is still alive in this country and that is good news.
I guess this means that Mueller did get to Trump's income tax returns...

There has to be real evidence---
Emails, some type of bookkeeping that doesn't match with tax returns maybe,
There is a FEDERAL judge who ok'd this no knock warrant---
No knock warrants as we discovered w/Manafort are issued when the authorities believe there is danger that documents will be destroyed
So I guess the paper shredders were starting to catch on fire--
Maybe that was what started the fire in Trump Tower...
 
Old 04-09-2018, 04:51 PM
 
Location: Long Island, N.Y.
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He repeated himself over and over. See my other post. No way Trump's own appointees and a federal judge approve a search warrant on the personal attorney for the POTUS unless they have some pretty compelling evidence.
No, it's disgusting! Communist tactics through and through.
 
Old 04-09-2018, 04:52 PM
 
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https://twitter.com/GovMikeHuckabee/...70083203911680

What utter nonsense. The only time attorney-client information can be seized is when a judge can be convinced that there is probable cause that the attorney and the client were committing a CRIME.

Gov. Huckabee knows better. It's shameful that he is misleading people.
 
Old 04-09-2018, 04:52 PM
 
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Does attorney-client privilege even apply if the attorney is acting without the approval or even the knowledge of the client? In such a case, there wouldn't even be any communication to protect. Therefore, if there is communication on this matter between Trump and Cohen, Cohen is lying.

They pretty much have them either way, don't they?
It would seem so.
 
Old 04-09-2018, 04:53 PM
 
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The deep state...please. They found crimes and issued a search warrant.
It's really that simple.
 
Old 04-09-2018, 04:54 PM
 
Location: Pixley
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Originally Posted by SeaMaj7 View Post
No, he stated the OBVIOUS; that actual CRIMES have been ignored, and all this BS is a "Witch Hunt".
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Originally Posted by Redd Jedd View Post
He repeated himself over and over. See my other post. No way Trump's own appointees and a federal judge approve a search warrant on the personal attorney for the POTUS unless they have some pretty compelling evidence.
And Trump keeps saying that if he knew Sessions was going to recuse himself from the Russia/Trump Campaign investigation he would have chosen someone else. The only thing is that there was no Russia/Trump Campaign investigation even on the horizon when Sessions was appointed. How dumb does Trump think his supporters are?
 
Old 04-09-2018, 04:54 PM
 
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So I guess Micheal Cohen now moved to "subject" of investigation...
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