Black rapper invites white girl on stage to sing his song and...

[Chicano3000X]

Originally Posted by PCALMike

It doesnt make the sexism and misogynist language any better though. Its just vile and obscene. And hypocritical.

In a way it is. But its mostly a radio track.

You can see when an artist is serious and when thryre not. He was just doing a feature for Kanye. More of a reflection that folks arent perfect. Even JCole acknowledges his setbacks.

[Sactown4]

Originally Posted by PCALMike

He's a powerful man with massive influence. Its disgraceful to be honest and he knows what he is doing. No reason to excuse him when he's trying to shame others.

Why do you keep bringing Trump into this?
This thread is about a well respected individual, not our President.

[RedZin]

Originally Posted by Sactown4

It's an absolute joy to watch so many people infuriated by the fact that they can't say the word.
What do you mean, black people can do something that we can't?

That is the power that black people have given the word. They took what we used to hurt them, and they made it theirs, and now it infuriates some of us. They use it left, right, and center. They've made it cool (like they have so much in our culture), and we can't touch it.

It's tremendous.




Kendrick had a white guy on their before the girl, and he skipped the word with no issue. The girl also apologized and kept on going.
Kendrick brings people on at every show.

No one into hip-hop cares about this, mostly racists do.

it's like the threads about NY and Cali written by people from North Dakota. just hating on what can't be had.

I have not read the rest of this thread. Just bits and pieces. I haven't seen a lot of people mad that they cannot say any words. I think people are frustrated that it seems like this girl, a fan of his, was put on the spot and embarrassed by just being an enthusiastic fan.

I don't think she was there to demean anyone or hurl slurs. But, I guarantee she felt like she was being accused of it by the time she was called out. And of course she apologized. She didn't go there to offend people. I think she was wrong to sing along and he was wrong to put her up there without laying down any ground rules.

That, in my mind, it is the actual issue around this.

I do not use that word and I don't think anyone should, but I'm not black so black people can do whatever they want.

I just like to think about things in an academic sense and it strikes me that there is indeed room for confusion when it comes to works of art such as music, plays, film, and novels.

[RedZin]

Originally Posted by Sactown4

I would like to join you on your magical planet.
The world that I live on; If black people stop using the word, it'll go right back to the bigoted racist, hillbilly confederate trash.
It won't disappear, it'll just go right back to being what it originally was. A word designed to dehumanize black people and put them down.

I obviously don't think you have bad intentions, but I think you're missing something here.

Do you know that for sure, though?

I mean, I do not doubt that some bigoted, racist pieces of trash would use it, but isn't it way easier to get all the decent people in this country to admonish those bigoted, racist pieces of trash for using it if NOBODY else thinks it is okay to use it?

Saying "it's okay here but not there" just sends mixed signals.

I mean, don't you think it might be worth trying out sometime? So many people of all races and ethnicities find that word offensive here in the US that you'd think we'd have retired it from polite conversation by now.

I'm not missing anything, I promise. I do see exactly where you are coming from.

But, at the end of the day, if you want the word to quit being tossed around, you have to extinguish it from daily discourse.