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Old 06-11-2018, 12:40 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Gilead
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Obama is criticized and hated for all the wrong reasons. If there is anything to dislike about him, it's that on a lot of issues he was a continuation of George W. Bush. He was far too weak during his first term when he was still popular and had tremendous political capital. He tried too hard to compromise with Republicans who would never compromise with him because they couldn't look past the color of his skin, his heritage, the crazy conspiracies about where he was born, and his respect for all people regardless of race, religion, or sexual orientation.

 
Old 06-11-2018, 12:47 PM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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lmao.. what a thread. The hate is real
Are you kidding? I think, for the most part the response has been pretty positive considering the OP asked about right leaning people to reply and those who have mostly have found something positive to say about him. What did you expect, 100% to say only nice things?
 
Old 06-11-2018, 12:56 PM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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Obama is criticized and hated for all the wrong reasons. If there is anything to dislike about him, it's that on a lot of issues he was a continuation of George W. Bush. He was far too weak during his first term when he was still popular and had tremendous political capital. He tried too hard to compromise with Republicans who would never compromise with him because they couldn't look past the color of his skin, his heritage, the crazy conspiracies about where he was born, and his respect for all people regardless of race, religion, or sexual orientation.
Are you serious? 1/2 the time he would say, prior to a house vote, that if it passed, something that the GOP was pushing for he would veto it. I doubt there were many Republicans that based their feeling on whether he was born in America or his color. Of course there were a few but most of this where was he born crap came from a certain group of people,not your basic Republican, especially the elected ones. Some of you juts want to think it was based on color or ethnic background.
 
Old 06-11-2018, 01:12 PM
 
Location: El paso,tx
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Look, these are people who voted for Donald Trump.............DONALD FRICKIN' TRUMP. Does that tell you anything about how they think ?


Obama could have cured Cancer, put every American to work, and walked on water, and they would still have accused him of some made up conspiracy theory, just to make their boy look better. No way will one of them ever give him any credit for anything, it would be like pulling their fingernails off.
When he was first elected I liked him...after being the least transparent administration in history, doing illegal acts like DACA, Fast and furious, wiretapping reporter Rosen, Solyndra, lying about Obamacare, lying about Benghazi cause. Lying about Hillary's server/emails, a use of FISA warrants, the illegal investigation of opposition campaign, the unethical iran deal, the fake red line in Syria, the anti police stance and race baiting, the promotion of illegal aliens voting, the apology tours around the world, the "i'll have more flexibility after I'm elected" remark to Russia, the calling ISIS a iv team and downplaying them, the trading of 5 terrorists for a deserter, the arming of Syrian rebels who's guns ended up in the hands of ISIS, the halt of project Cassandra which helped Hamas so he could push thru the Iran deal the efforts to undermine the current administration ...no I despise him and his administration.
 
Old 06-11-2018, 01:14 PM
 
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I am a right wing kinda guy. I detest the socialism and leftism Obama promoted but I have no ill will toward him. I respect the decency with which he conducted himself and it is obvious he was a good family man. I simply disagree with his policies. In contrast I find Trumps values and actions detestable but agree with some of his policies. However as a world leader he is dangerous and unhinged. His treatment of our allies at the G7 is worthy of some kind of congressional censure. In fact congress should pass laws in a bipartisan manner to protect allies from his tariffs, reassert thier right to determine NAFTAs future and to reassure the allied powers that only the executive branch is off the rails and that we Americans value our close allies.

I hope and pray for the sake of this country that a sane moderate person becomes president in 2020. Not a populist loon, a leftist kook, but a moderate stabilizing man. Where is Gerald Ford when you need him lol.
I can’t say I disagree with this. Imagine if Marco Rubio had won the nomination instead. Some of Trump’s policies are great, but his manner is horrendous. I wonder what he could be like if people didn’t go off the rails from day one. Could he be more serious and presidential had they treated him better? I don’t know, and we will never know now.
 
Old 06-11-2018, 01:17 PM
 
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I liked Obama at the beginning and then when I found out about his policies... well, I didn't like him anymore...
 
Old 06-11-2018, 01:18 PM
 
Location: FL
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Well, now...

This thread certainly got the h8ers up and barking this morning.

Bow-wow, boys...

 
Old 06-11-2018, 02:31 PM
 
Location: crafton pa
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My mistake, I should have specified the "US auto industry". And for the record I was against the bail out of both the auto companies and the banks. Working for one of the Detroit 3 now and I can still see many of the old bad habits still in place.
I'm not sure that even modifying it to state that he saved the US auto industry would be accurate. Do you honestly believe that had GM and Ford gone bankrupt that NOBODY would be making cars in the US? The infrastructure is there; someone would have purchased all of GM and Ford's assets during the liquidation phase of the bankruptcy and there would have been NEW automakers in the US.

Certainly Obama saved GM and Ford, and of course a lot of upheaval that would have been caused by the bankruptcy of those companies. I have no doubt that many individuals benefited from this action. I do question, though, whether the preservation of companies that have put themselves into a position where they can no longer compete profitably in the marketplace is the proper role of government in the first place. Isn't the idea of capitalism that companies that cannot compete profitably should fold and allow more competitive companies the opportunity to sell their product? I would question whether the saving of pain and upheaval for some individuals associated with the legacy automakers is what is in the best interests of society in the long term. Would not a more profitable company or companies producing better, cheaper automobiles be better for the country as a whole over the long term? We won't have the opportunity to answer this question, at least in the short to intermediate term, because of Obama's actions in bailing out the US legacy automakers.
 
Old 06-11-2018, 04:39 PM
 
Location: alexandria, VA
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I'm not sure that even modifying it to state that he saved the US auto industry would be accurate. Do you honestly believe that had GM and Ford gone bankrupt that NOBODY would be making cars in the US? The infrastructure is there; someone would have purchased all of GM and Ford's assets during the liquidation phase of the bankruptcy and there would have been NEW automakers in the US.

Certainly Obama saved GM and Ford, and of course a lot of upheaval that would have been caused by the bankruptcy of those companies. I have no doubt that many individuals benefited from this action. I do question, though, whether the preservation of companies that have put themselves into a position where they can no longer compete profitably in the marketplace is the proper role of government in the first place. Isn't the idea of capitalism that companies that cannot compete profitably should fold and allow more competitive companies the opportunity to sell their product? I would question whether the saving of pain and upheaval for some individuals associated with the legacy automakers is what is in the best interests of society in the long term. Would not a more profitable company or companies producing better, cheaper automobiles be better for the country as a whole over the long term? We won't have the opportunity to answer this question, at least in the short to intermediate term, because of Obama's actions in bailing out the US legacy automakers.
Fair points. And I'm generally opposed to these kinds of bailouts myself. But if the only thing that was happening at that time were the poorly run auto companies tanking I would have said "let the markets sort it out and the chips fall where they may". But the whole damn economy was tanking due to the sub-prime mortgage melt down so I believe the auto bailout was necessary to help stabilize the economy. Same with insurance giant AIG.
 
Old 06-11-2018, 08:49 PM
 
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He tried too hard to compromise with Republicans who would never compromise with him because they couldn't look past the color of his skin,


Nothing more than leftist/liberal/progressive rhetoric/drivel.



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