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Old 07-05-2018, 04:26 AM
 
Location: Here and now.
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No. We already engage in enough of that foolishness, there is no reason to expand it.
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Old 07-05-2018, 04:58 AM
 
Location: 23.7 million to 162 million miles North of Venus
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If we build the wall then we should stay out of it, cartels and gangs would be their problems to solve. If we don't build the wall then the cartels and gangs would continue to be our problem too, so maybe we should think about dealing with them.

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First of all we have no idea where the cartel leaders are so we should not get involved.
Sure they know, unless, they'd been spending all of their time trying to 'get Trump' instead of doing their real jobs.

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And also no to the wall unless red states are willing to pay for it. Go for it but leave blue states out of it
Suure, just as soon as you reimburse us for the billions that it had cost us to support illegals. Heck, we could build three or four walls just with that reimbursement. Sounds like a winner to me, start sending those checks in


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Drone Strikes in other countries have seen innocent civilians killed, and would be difficult to justify as a type of law enforcement.
I agree. When hillary suggested drone striking the embassy just to stop Assange, it was clear that the 'powers that be' are far too comfortable with using drones and not caring about the innocents near the targets.
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Old 07-05-2018, 05:08 AM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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If we can take out the drug cartels and MS-13, we remove the justification illegal aliens make for coming across our border. Remember in the 1990s one of the rationales behind NATO intervention in Kosovo and Bosnia was to stabilize the Balkans because refugees were invading Western Europe by the droves due to the wars there.

If we can defeat the Mexican cartels and MS 13 then there will be less illegal aliens "fleeing" to our country.

HOW is removing the cartels and MS 13 going to stop those who come here to make $$$ they send home? Jailing those who hire them would be a much more effective action and requires no incursion into another country.
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Old 07-05-2018, 05:33 AM
 
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HOW is removing the cartels and MS 13 going to stop those who come here to make $$$ they send home? Jailing those who hire them would be a much more effective action and requires no incursion into another country.
He has no idea. One second he's campaigning for communism. The next he's going on about walls and bombing people.
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Old 07-05-2018, 08:56 AM
 
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I think the CIA and DEA are in bed with them. The best thing we could do is legalize, put some of the massive tax money towards treatment when people have finally had enough and put the bastids out of business.

You don’t see liquor store owners shooting each other or chopping off arms to protect their territory.
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Old 07-05-2018, 10:36 AM
 
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Oh boy, all the USA needs is to get involved in another foreign mess.

No, I do not support the idea in the OP.
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Old 07-05-2018, 10:43 AM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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I think the CIA and DEA are in bed with them. The best thing we could do is legalize, put some of the massive tax money towards treatment when people have finally had enough and put the bastids out of business.

You don’t see liquor store owners shooting each other or chopping off arms to protect their territory.

I often wonder about that. We have spy satellites that can read a license plate from I believe 22,500 miles above the earth, makes it a bit difficult we couldn't locate and stop drug shipments if it was really a priority. Lots of people making lots of $$$ in the trade.
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Old 07-05-2018, 10:46 AM
 
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I personally would support using military force against the Mexican drug cartels and also gangs like MS-13 in their home countries. Now I don't mean ground troops where we risk American casualties.

But I would be in favor of using drones and airstrikes to target the cartel leaders and threats along our border. In addition to building the wall.
Agreed, kill them on sight.
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Old 07-05-2018, 10:48 AM
 
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Or we could have Americans wean themselves off their drug habit and remove the income stream.
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Old 07-05-2018, 10:50 AM
 
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Jailing those who hire them would be a much more effective action and requires no incursion into another country.
I'll have you know you're talking about job creators, the holiest of the holiest cows. Surely you don't expect US politicians to punish the donor class?
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