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Old 07-05-2018, 02:23 PM
 
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The US has invaded Honduras since 1903 and at least once a decade thereafter to protect US business interests, banana plantations, banks and railroads. Other times it was to overthrow government or rebels and instill a US puppet till the next time.

When is enough enough?
Wars have been fought over opium and the opium trade all thru out history... there is just too much money to be made.
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Old 07-05-2018, 02:25 PM
 
Location: Chicago Area
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“WAR is a racket. It always has been.
It is possibly the oldest, easily the most profitable, surely the most vicious. It is the only one
international in scope. It is the only one in which the profits are reckoned in dollars and the
losses in lives.” _____ General Smedley D. Butler


It's a shame the General's thought are not more widely publicized.
Yep and there are easily thousands of other voices who have said much the same thing. We need to butt the hell out of the rest of the world's problems already.

If the world wants somebody to play World Policeman, they need to create and fund that World Policeman. How many trillions of dollars of US taxpayer dollars have been wasted on us footing the bill for it? And it's not like we're angels. We pull all sorts of shady crap. Same thing happened with any other world power that came before us. You tend to look out for your own selfish interests.
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Old 07-05-2018, 02:27 PM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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Look at how much money pharma was making on opioids, when doctors were giving them out left and right, they could barely keep up with demand, pharmacies had trouble keeping certain narcotics in stock!...and yet they didnt even challenge the Govt when they cracked down on them...what kind of sense does that make?

About as much sense as telling kids to stay away from drugs as we hand them out like candy. I knew someone who had minor shoulder surgery and was given two weeks worth of one of the Oxys (I can't tell the players apart without a program) and said Tylenol for a few days was more than adequate to keep him comfortable.
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Old 07-05-2018, 02:29 PM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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Yep and there are easily thousands of other voices who have said much the same thing. We need to butt the hell out of the rest of the world's problems already.

If the world wants somebody to play World Policeman, they need to create and fund that World Policeman.
How many trillions of dollars of US taxpayer dollars have been wasted on us footing the bill for it? And it's not like we're angels. We pull all sorts of shady crap. Same thing happened with any other world power that came before us. You tend to look out for your own selfish interests.

I wouldn't even want to see that, there's no one I'd trust to put a price on things like lost limbs, traumatic brain injuries, or death. Let us take care of our own and leave other countries to do the same.
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Old 07-05-2018, 02:30 PM
 
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Yep and there are easily thousands of other voices who have said much the same thing. We need to butt the hell out of the rest of the world's problems already.

If the world wants somebody to play World Policeman, they need to create and fund that World Policeman. How many trillions of dollars of US taxpayer dollars have been wasted on us footing the bill for it? And it's not like we're angels. We pull all sorts of shady crap. Same thing happened with any other world power that came before us. You tend to look out for your own selfish interests.
Plus, if you look at recent years, it doesnt matter which party holds the power at any given time (in relation to the war on drugs), it was during Obamas term, when dems had all the power, that they cracked down on opioids, this should have never happened under a liberal controlled govt...but it did??!

Voting doesnt really change anything about the war on drugs.
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Old 07-05-2018, 03:10 PM
 
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Why would the federal government bomb itself?

Usually you are good for nothing.

Not here though. Indeed ,why would it?
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Old 07-05-2018, 03:15 PM
 
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I personally would support using military force against the Mexican drug cartels and also gangs like MS-13 in their home countries. Now I don't mean ground troops where we risk American casualties.

But I would be in favor of using drones and airstrikes to target the cartel leaders and threats along our border. In addition to building the wall.
My opinion is that the drug cartels are a sort of para-governmental entity (much like ISIS and the Taliban) and, like ISIS, they use terrorist tactics against enemies. As such, we could designate them a terrorist group and thus use that designation to issue sanctions for the refusal of the new Mexican President to help us bring cartels to justice.

As for building the wall, some of these cartels are loaded with cash. If we can capture that money, we could probably fund the wall with it. Besides, if we could get 33 or so Billion in gold coins to pay bomb-building, Yemen-invading, Israel and USA-hating Iran, we surely could get enough dough (yeah, I know we're broke, but that's never stopped us before!) to fund that border wall.
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Old 07-05-2018, 03:22 PM
 
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Were the wars successful on the war against terrorism?? It will keep coming. Peace can be achieved through peace and talks, not by tanks.
No argument there from me but it doesn't answer my question as to why anyone would think only the (R)s are for war.
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Old 07-05-2018, 03:24 PM
 
Location: Chicago Area
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Plus, if you look at recent years, it doesnt matter which party holds the power at any given time (in relation to the war on drugs), it was during Obamas term, when dems had all the power, that they cracked down on opioids, this should have never happened under a liberal controlled govt...but it did??!

Voting doesnt really change anything about the war on drugs.
Vote Libertarian then. R and D are just horrible failures at everything.
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Old 07-05-2018, 03:25 PM
 
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https://www.globalresearch.ca/drug-w...uction/5358053

I wonder how well targeting our own military will go over?
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