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Old 07-05-2018, 01:30 PM
 
Location: Barrington
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The US has invaded Honduras since 1903 and at least once a decade thereafter to protect US business interests, banana plantations, banks and railroads. Other times it was to overthrow government or rebels and instill a US puppet till the next time.

When is enough enough?
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Old 07-05-2018, 01:31 PM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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Stay in your own country. Stay out of Syria, stay out of Iraq, stay out of Argentina. Stay out. Period.

Works for me!

There's an awful lot of people in that five-sided building who need to be educated about the meaning of the word 'defense'.
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Old 07-05-2018, 01:32 PM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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The US has invaded Honduras since 1903 and at least once a decade thereafter to protect US business interests, banana plantations, banks and railroads. Other times it was to overthrow government or rebels and instill a US puppet till the next time.

When is enough enough?

Apparently, when the MIC says it is.
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Old 07-05-2018, 01:33 PM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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It might just be better to let people have ownership of their own minds and bodies, rather than seeking to kill other people.

But how will anyone profit from that?
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Old 07-05-2018, 01:38 PM
 
Location: Barrington
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If we can take out the drug cartels and MS-13, we remove the justification illegal aliens make for coming across our border. Remember in the 1990s one of the rationales behind NATO intervention in Kosovo and Bosnia was to stabilize the Balkans because refugees were invading Western Europe by the droves due to the wars there.

If we can defeat the Mexican cartels and MS 13 then there will be less illegal aliens "fleeing" to our country.
So long as the US population demonstrates an insatiable demand for drugs, the cartels/ gangs will survive.

The countries with the fewest drug challenges impose the harshest consequences.
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Old 07-05-2018, 01:38 PM
 
Location: Chicago Area
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Works for me!

There's an awful lot of people in that five-sided building who need to be educated about the meaning of the word 'defense'.
It's like a bad joke: It was called the War Department from the start of the USA till 1947 and during that time we did a pretty good job of keeping our military based in the USA and not spreading them all over the planet.

As the Department of Defense (1949 - present) that department has been running all over the planet picking fights and "beating up the bad guys." It acts a lot more like a department of The Empire of the USA.

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Despite recently closing hundreds of bases in Iraq and Afghanistan, the United States still maintains nearly 800 military bases in more than 70 countries and territories abroad—from giant “Little Americas” to small radar facilities. Britain, France and Russia, by contrast, have about 30 foreign bases combined.
https://www.politico.com/magazine/st...e-world-119321
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Old 07-05-2018, 01:46 PM
 
Location: Barrington
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I would be for taking out their government as well. Let the people vote and decide to become part of the US or vote in a new, Democratic government with US Military presence for a few years to assure the crooks don’t come back. Would be better than a wall.
Honduras, El Salvadore, Guatelmala and Mexico to vote to join the US?

You assume past, present and/ or future government was/ won't be the cartel in suits.
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Old 07-05-2018, 01:46 PM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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It's like a bad joke: It was called the War Department from the start of the USA till 1947 and during that time we did a pretty good job of keeping our military based in the USA and not spreading them all over the planet.

As the Department of Defense (1949 - present) that department has been running all over the planet picking fights and "beating up the bad guys." It acts a lot more like a department of The Empire of the USA.

https://www.politico.com/magazine/st...e-world-119321


“WAR is a racket. It always has been.
It is possibly the oldest, easily the most profitable, surely the most vicious. It is the only one
international in scope. It is the only one in which the profits are reckoned in dollars and the
losses in lives.” _____ General Smedley D. Butler


It's a shame the General's thought are not more widely publicized.
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Old 07-05-2018, 02:19 PM
 
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And? Do you also think BigPharma wants currently illegal drugs made legal?
Look at how much money pharma was making on opioids, when doctors were giving them out left and right, they could barely keep up with demand, pharmacies had trouble keeping certain narcotics in stock!...and yet they didnt even challenge the Govt when they cracked down on them...what kind of sense does that make?
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Old 07-05-2018, 02:21 PM
 
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The cartels are thoroughly embedded in the local populations. It would be nearly impossible to pick out cartel members from the local population and even if you had a way to do it they would float in and out of active threat status on a daily or hourly basis. Total warfare would mean a slaughter of innocents.
Armies are built to fight armies.
Now add in the fact that the cartels have active operations in places like Guatemala and El Salvador. Would we invade multiple nations?
History shows that Govt is the one who actually controls the drug trade though, look at the CIA and FBI back in the cocaine days of the 80s, they were managing the whole thing and making tons of money in the process.
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