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For the umpteenth time these parents were forewarned not to cross our border illegally with their kids or they would go to jail and we don't send kids to jail with their parents so they would get separated from them yet they chose to do it anyway! So just who's to blame here? Evidently these parents didn't care if their kids would suffer emotional distress and trauma by the choice that "they" made.
There is nothing more "law and order" than unnecessarily ripping an infant from its mothers arms and locking it in a converted Wallmart for weeks or months to prove a political point regarding border crossings. You must be proud of yourself.
You do not understand the system. In order for this baby with a bottle to get to safety, they must appear before a judge to be ordered to safety. For the government funding to be approved for the care of that baby with a bottle, it has to be ordered in court. It's a necessary process. The child has no need to understand anything.
They were removed from their parents without a court hearing.
Where was the concern for this infant’s needs and safety then?
Are you honestly trying to say that until this hearing this infant wasn’t held in a safe place, wasn’t fed, wasn’t bathed?
I got news for you. I was a licensed foster parent. Kids were placed without court hearings all the time.
And when there were court hearings, the kids did not have to appear in court.
They had representatives who spoke for them.
There is absolutely no reason to order infants to court.
None.
Oh please. Stop the dramatic virtue signaling. The person who can't understand what is being said PUT HERSELF IN THE SITUATION. Maybe she should have learned English before she broke our laws so she could understand the judge she was ultimately going to be in front of.
A ONE year old infant put herself in this situation?
A ONE year old infant should have learned English before her court hearing?
What utter nonsense. There is no labor shortage just an unwillingness of some greedy employers to pay a fair wage. What's wrong with declining birthrates? Environmentally it's much better for our country and the planet in general. Everything shouldn't be about money. A smaller economy to fit a smaller population makes more sense in general.
Most of the illegal aliens here are the unskilled, poor and uneducated. Should we soften our immigration policies to accommodate more of them when obviously they would be a burden rather than a benefit to our society?
Walls do work as a deterrent. I have posted links numerous time proving that the good walls do work and are working on our border where they are already erected. We just need to complete the 700 miles on the most porous areas of our border already approved by congress back in 2006.
Employers are importing people for relatively unskilled jobs - waitresses, cleaners, cooks...
Walls will do nothing to deter that.
Over 10 pages later - no one on the left has addressed why something wasn't done to change the immigration system while the Dems were in power from 209 - 2011?
They were removed from their parents without a court hearing.
Where was the concern for this infant’s needs and safety then?
Are you honestly trying to say that until this hearing this infant wasn’t held in a safe place, wasn’t fed, wasn’t bathed?
I got news for you. I was a licensed foster parent. Kids were placed without court hearings all the time.
And when there were court hearings, the kids did not have to appear in court.
They had representatives who spoke for them.
There is absolutely no reason to order infants to court.
None.
You are talking about an emergency order. To keep the child in care, you need to have a formal hearing. We have GALs here to represent the children (which also must be ordered and recognized by the court.)
Sorry you were so misinformed as a licensed foster parent.
Perhaps you would like to take time out to be a GAL for the kids in the immigration system.
Ummm yeah, it was happening under Obama.
And there are kids in family court often.
And American citizens separated from parents because their parents went to jail, or were killed due to crime, or killed in car accidents caused by drunk drivers, many illegal alien drunk drivers.
Prove it.
Prove that there was an instance of an infant ordered to court under Obama.
I was granted guardianship for a child who was abandoned by his mom (father unknown). I have watched kids in the system and volunteered for organizations like the one I posted earlier in the thread. It's important that we support these kids. However, it doesn't change the fact that it was their parents did something wrong. Don't blame those trying to help the kids when it's the parent(s) that put the child in that situation.
Oh I agree, its just a crappy system. And no different than what is going on with illegals crossing the border with their kids now. Its the parents fault and what those kids are going through is no different than what US citizen children go through when their parents did something wrong.
I don't think it was a good idea to separate these kids from their parents but I also know they cant continue the catch and release as before.
Yes, these children run a severe risk of developing Reactive Attachment Disorder. However, it's not being caused by our government. It is caused by the parent choosing to sneak into the country. The blame lays at the feet of the parent that chooses to commit a crime.
It is being caused by the government that has seen fit to steal these children from their parents with no intention or plan to reunite them.
There is absolutely no comparison between this current situation and that of children removed by social services.
None.
U.S. children removed from their parents by any agency in this country are not shipped thousands of miles away from their parents.
Their removal is documented and should it be determined that the children should be returned, the agency that removed them knows where to go to get them to give them back.
There is no defense for the fact that there was no plan in place to track the parents and their children.
None.
There are protocols and standards they could have followed. They chose not to do so.
The blame for the trauma lies solely with the administration.
You are talking about an emergency order. To keep the child in care, you need to have a formal hearing. We have GALs here to represent the children (which also must be ordered and recognized by the court.)
Sorry you were so misinformed as a licensed foster parent.
Perhaps you would like to take time out to be a GAL for the kids in the immigration system.
None of this disputes what I said about the kids not having to appear in court themselves.
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