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Guessing from your repeated use of words slave labor and first time usage of "hung from town square" I guess you are from middle east or north africa and won a diversity lottery .
Hehah, no actually just calling it like it is. In fact the loudest most harsh criticisms of H-1B visa lately have been coming from workers rights advocates from India who have been angrily pointing out the way the body shops like Tata and Infosys deceive and abuse the workers from India who are brought here on false promises, often their money and passport taken at the gate and indeed, they are treated like virtual slaves or indentured servants, at the mercy of the middleman who controls them. Just one example of how the Indian overseas worker community is starting blow the whistle, https://www.quora.com/Will-history-c...modern-slavery
Notice harshest assessments here are from Indian labor reformers who've been shafted by this process them selves. And as for the metaphor about other country's attitudes, it's a good snap-shot of how they view this issue. The rest of the world thinks the US is bat-s--- crazy for allowing a policy like H-1B to knock down their own citizens wages and discriminate against native born workers. No other country tolerates this, and the punishment is indeed extremely harsh in almost any other country for a company or execs who use cheap foreign labor (yes, indentured servitude which is what H-1B is) to displace local workers or reduce wages by basically enslaving and abusing desperate foreigners. This is considered one of the most, if not the most despicable business practice imaginable in virtually any other country, not just in Europe but Asia too, and it's dealt with very harshly.
Only two categories of people can understand this mess :-
1) American IT workers displaced by Indians
2) Indian IT workers in USA in Green ard wait conundrum.
Americans in other fields do not get displaced by Foreign workers. Workers from other countries get Green Card in 2 or 3 years while on H-1B visa and they move on.
This program was not intended to be one field (IT) and one country (india) specific.
This is what happens when you dont reform the visa process. Since 1999 in last 20 years, it has been one way traffic.
Solution needs to be found by government / Industry of these two countries.
Delink IT from H-1B program. Make a separate visa category !!!
Or make a country reservation like we have in Diversity visa Lottery. In GC Lottery, no more then 7 % visas can be issued to applicants from one country.
Do it in H-1B visa also- India should not get more then 7% of H-1B visas out of total. If applicants from India are less, the Green Card waiting time period for them will also come down.
These reforms should have come earlier-20 years ago. This human tragedy of abuse of visa holders and displacement of local workers would not have happened.
Hehah, no actually just calling it like it is. In fact the loudest most harsh criticisms of H-1B visa lately have been coming from workers rights advocates from India who have been angrily pointing out the way the body shops like Tata and Infosys deceive and abuse the workers from India who are brought here on false promises, often their money and passport taken at the gate and indeed, they are treated like virtual slaves or indentured servants, at the mercy of the middleman who controls them. Just one example of how the Indian overseas worker community is starting blow the whistle, https://www.quora.com/Will-history-c...modern-slavery
Notice harshest assessments here are from Indian labor reformers who've been shafted by this process them selves. And as for the metaphor about other country's attitudes, it's a good snap-shot of how they view this issue. The rest of the world thinks the US is bat-s--- crazy for allowing a policy like H-1B to knock down their own citizens wages and discriminate against native born workers. No other country tolerates this, and the punishment is indeed extremely harsh in almost any other country for a company or execs who use cheap foreign labor (yes, indentured servitude which is what H-1B is) to displace local workers or reduce wages by basically enslaving and abusing desperate foreigners. This is considered one of the most, if not the most despicable business practice imaginable in virtually any other country, not just in Europe but Asia too, and it's dealt with very harshly.
Taking away passports or false promises is an exaggeration. They are neither uneducated nor going to Saudi or UAE. The expectation is to go back at the end of their term but that always doesnt happen. Before coming prevailing wage is determined by DOL and they are paid that.
And asking as to why they are here in the first place is not for you or me to decide. $ decides it.
Only two categories of people can understand this mess :-
1) American IT workers displaced by Indians
2) Indian IT workers in USA in Green ard wait conundrum.
Americans in other fields do not get displaced by Foreign workers. Workers from other countries get Green Card in 2 or 3 years while on H-1B visa and they move on.
This program was not intended to be one field (IT) and one country (india) specific.
This is what happens when you dont reform the visa process. Since 1999 in last 20 years, it has been one way traffic.
Solution needs to be found by government / Industry of these two countries.
Delink IT from H-1B program. Make a separate visa category !!!
Or make a country reservation like we have in Diversity visa Lottery. In GC Lottery, no more then 7 % visas can be issued to applicants from one country.
Do it in H-1B visa also- India should not get more then 7% of H-1B visas out of total. If applicants from India are less, the Green Card waiting time period for them will also come down.
These reforms should have come earlier-20 years ago. This human tragedy of abuse of visa holders and displacement of local workers would not have happened.
Great proposals, like you say what makes H-1B so terrible is how almost everyone loses, the Indian workers are lured in by false promises and talk by the body shops then subjected to indentured servitude, horrible abuses and underpaid when they get here, while American workers are displaced and wages fall while cost of living goes higher. I'd also add introducing salary minimums well into up in 6 figures, and keeping the visa in the hands of the immigrant not the sponsoring company, which too often is a body shop like Tata and Infosys that keeps the immigrant in virtual slavery and indentured servitude, not free to bargain for better salary, working hours or look for a new job
New proposals coming up in 2019 where they will redefine H-1B visa. Cant say much about the details but H4 spouse authorization is sure to go.
There is a lawsuit by an IT advocacy group representing around 1000 small companies (mostly owned by Indians) called ITServe Alliance based in Dallas, Texas against USCIS.
New proposals coming up in 2019 where they will redefine H-1B visa. Cant say much about the details but H4 spouse authorization is sure to go.
There is a lawsuit by an IT advocacy group representing around 1000 small companies (mostly owned by Indians) called ITServe Alliance based in Dallas, Texas against USCIS.
New proposals coming up in 2019 where they will redefine H-1B visa. Cant say much about the details but H4 spouse authorization is sure to go.
There is a lawsuit by an IT advocacy group representing around 1000 small companies (mostly owned by Indians) called ITServe Alliance based in Dallas, Texas against USCIS.
That will be fascinating to see. wonder if they'll be introducing minimal salary requirements, and giving H-1B holders power over their visas instead of employers therefore the freedom switch jobs? Maybe turn the H-1B into an auction instead? A lot of suggested reforms but these seem basics to change the H-1B from an indentured servitude visa full of abuses and basically a form of human trafficking, into something that genuinely does allow for recruitment of talent to fill real gaps, not displacing Americans for key tech jobs like what Disney did. Would also make the H-1B more like what Europe does, where foreign recruits must be paid same or higher than locals and enjoy same freedoms as locals to change jobs, not be used as cheap slave labor.
As per US government data, 2.2 million H1B petitions were filed between 2007 to 2017 by Indian citizens.
How many of them were filed by such scrupulous Bodyshopping IT companies is anybody guess !!
I've also wondered about this to and from the limited amt of data that's dribbled out about it, seems like a big majority of the H-1B visas that have gone out, have indeed gone out to those horrible Bodyshopping companies like Tata and Infosys. Which in their practices are barely a step above human traffickers or slave traders. The things they do to the workers they sucker in are disgusting, they promise them the moon and big salaries but then when these poor workers get drawn in, the Bodyshoppers hold on their visas and force them to live in filthy dorms near the company worksite at low wages and 100-hour weeks. The worst irony is, the Indians brought in thru these deceptive Bodyshopping firms, with the nasty middlemen basically owning them, are so poorly paid for their hours they often wind up in debt, that is they wind up worse off than if they just stayed home. For unscrupulous US corporations, this of course is a "benefit" by cutting labor costs (which is why Americans aren't getting hired or paid well for STEM jobs), while the Indian Bodyshopper human trafficking firms make out like bandits by basically treating the exploited Indian indentured servants like cattle.
I've also wondered about this to and from the limited amt of data that's dribbled out about it, seems like a big majority of the H-1B visas that have gone out, have indeed gone out to those horrible Bodyshopping companies like Tata and Infosys. Which in their practices are barely a step above human traffickers or slave traders. The things they do to the workers they sucker in are disgusting, they promise them the moon and big salaries but then when these poor workers get drawn in, the Bodyshoppers hold on their visas and force them to live in filthy dorms near the company worksite at low wages and 100-hour weeks. The worst irony is, the Indians brought in thru these deceptive Bodyshopping firms, with the nasty middlemen basically owning them, are so poorly paid for their hours they often wind up in debt, that is they wind up worse off than if they just stayed home. For unscrupulous US corporations, this of course is a "benefit" by cutting labor costs (which is why Americans aren't getting hired or paid well for STEM jobs), while the Indian Bodyshopper human trafficking firms make out like bandits by basically treating the exploited Indian indentured servants like cattle.
Bolding mine. STEM work is a white-hot seller's market, or at least every part of it that touches writing code. No clue how you could reach this conclusion. The demand and pay would be even higher without H-1B, yes, but it's certainly nothing to complain about presently.
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