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View Poll Results: If the Anonymous Op Ed Proves True, Should Trump Be Forced Out?
Yes, absolutely! 137 55.02%
Heck no! 112 44.98%
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Old 09-06-2018, 10:30 AM
 
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Hahahahahahahahahahaha.

It appears the stunt, like most, has backfired spectacularly on the NYT. Just like the Nike nonsense, just like the Democrat lovefest of the dead John McCain. The rest of America is sick of the hypocrisy.

Anyone else here who posts a topic based on "fact" from the NYT is just embarrassing themselves. Because what's left of that newspaper is now thoroughly discredited.


Trump Saboteur Op-Ed Backfires: LA Times Calls "A Coward"; Greenwald: "Unelected Cabal"
Anyone here who posts an opinion piece and cites it as 'evidence' that something may or may not be factual is just embarrassing themselves.


My feeling -- it's like a sitcom. Someone slams the President and the next day his buddy - the brutal dictator -- gives his unwavering support.

It's a joke -- this whole Presidency is a joke.
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Old 09-06-2018, 10:30 AM
 
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Another nothing burger
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Old 09-06-2018, 10:32 AM
 
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Direct from the Los Angeles Times.....


In an op-ed which appeared hours after the NYT piece, Jessica Roy of the Los Angeles Times writes: "No, anonymous Trump official, you're not 'part of the resistance.' You're a coward" for not going far enough to stop Trump and in fact enabling him.
If they really believe there's a need to subvert the president to protect the country, they should be getting this person out of the White House. But they're too cowardly and afraid of the possible implications. They hand-wave the notion thusly:
“Given the instability many witnessed, there were early whispers within the cabinet of invoking the 25th Amendment, which would start a complex process for removing the president. But no one wanted to precipitate a constitutional crisis."
How is it that utilizing the 25th Amendment of the Constitution would cause a crisis, but admitting to subverting a democratically elected leader wouldn't?
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If you're reading this, senior White House official, know this: You are not resisting Donald Trump. You are enabling him for your own benefit. That doesn't make you an unsung hero. It makes you a coward. -LA Times

So either the story is made up, or the NYT is directly participating in the Subversion. Can't have it both ways.
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Old 09-06-2018, 10:32 AM
 
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I understand. I'm having the same conflicts myself. I'm glad that somebody's trying to stop the worst of it, but if it slides *this* time with *this* POTUS....then what's to stop it from happening again with another POTUS, but with a staff that might not have people's best interests at heart?
Exactly.
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Old 09-06-2018, 10:33 AM
 
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Another nothing burger
Seems to be giving Trump a bad case of indigestion.
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Old 09-06-2018, 10:34 AM
 
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I love how here we have someone that works within his administration, remains anonymous and all I see is "You can't believe this. It is anonymous."

Then you have people that have since left the administration, say the President is unhinged or whatever and all I see is "you can't trust that person."

You really want it both ways, don't you?
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Old 09-06-2018, 10:35 AM
 
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from your link:


"Trump may be a threat but so is this covert coup to impose these policies"


greenwald is saying both trump and his staff are unfit for office.


not sure how that supports your claim that this is a backfire for the NYT but...... you keep being you.

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Old 09-06-2018, 10:38 AM
 
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from your link:


"Trump may be threat but so is this covert coup to impose these policies"


greenwald is saying both trump and his staff are unfit for office.


not sure how that supports your claim that this is a backfire for the NYT but...... you keep being you.

When you cherry pick single lines out of context, I see why you can't, or rather claim that you can't figure it out.

The NYT is either directly participating in the subversion of the Presidency of the USA, or they made the entire story up. Your choice. The newspaper has thoroughly discredited itself forever. If you still believe them without question, that's on you.
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Old 09-06-2018, 10:38 AM
 
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Direct from the Los Angeles Times.....


In an op-ed which appeared hours after the NYT piece, Jessica Roy of the Los Angeles Times writes: "No, anonymous Trump official, you're not 'part of the resistance.' You're a coward" for not going far enough to stop Trump and in fact enabling him.
If they really believe there's a need to subvert the president to protect the country, they should be getting this person out of the White House. But they're too cowardly and afraid of the possible implications. They hand-wave the notion thusly:
“Given the instability many witnessed, there were early whispers within the cabinet of invoking the 25th Amendment, which would start a complex process for removing the president. But no one wanted to precipitate a constitutional crisis."
How is it that utilizing the 25th Amendment of the Constitution would cause a crisis, but admitting to subverting a democratically elected leader wouldn't?
...
If you're reading this, senior White House official, know this: You are not resisting Donald Trump. You are enabling him for your own benefit. That doesn't make you an unsung hero. It makes you a coward. -LA Times

So either the story is made up, or the NYT is directly participating in the Subversion. Can't have it both ways.


Um, did you forget what your argument was that this is all made up? You're article just says they do not agree with what the person has done, and lots of people have said that.

But everyone seems to agree, the Op Ed and the message sentiment are legit.
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Old 09-06-2018, 10:39 AM
 
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.... or the NYT is directly participating in the Subversion. Can't have it both ways.

so, if the op/ed is legitimate, then publishing it is "participating in subversion". correct?
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