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Old 09-17-2018, 06:50 PM
 
Location: LEAVING CD
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And before I moved into the house I live in now, it was owned by someone else. Me buying it (the same as the colonists did in the document I presented to you, but you readily ignored) is a transaction in which the ownership of the land changes. It no longer belongs to that person, but to me. Assuming I bought it legally, there was no "aggression" on my part. When you moved into whatever you live in now, was there aggression on your part toward the person who used to live there? Did you somehow "wrong" him or her?
Your feeding a troll, do so at your own peril...
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Old 09-17-2018, 06:51 PM
 
Location: So Cal
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They had a right. We attacked first.
The savages got what they deserved. F them.
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Old 09-17-2018, 07:52 PM
 
Location: Manchester NH
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Your feeding a troll, do so at your own peril...
I answered his post with thought and purpose. You use base attacks to distort the truth.
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Old 09-17-2018, 07:53 PM
 
Location: Manchester NH
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The savages got what they deserved. F them.
NO!

Genocide is evil no matter the intention or the reasoning.
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Old 09-17-2018, 08:03 PM
 
Location: Prepperland
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Genocide is evil no matter the intention or the reasoning.
And since there never was genocide, all your posts are a large accumulation of revisionist heifer dung.

Small reminder of FACT.
90-95% of Amerindian deaths on both continents are attributed to Eurasian diseases that decimated the population.

Amerindian tribes practiced adverse possession, continually fighting to defend and expand their hunting grounds, due to the large expanse of land needed to support a hunter-gatherer lifestyle. Their nomadic lifestyle was enhanced by the introduction of horses, by the Spanish.

European settlers who improved the land, were able to support far more people. However, agriculture requires exclusive use of land, lest the crops be trampled by herds, or taken by gatherers. This was the foundation of the conflict that underpinned the necessity to exclude Amerindians via reservations. Their lifestyle was wholly incompatible with the more advanced European model.


NOBLE SAVAGE?

...
http://www.enotes.com/canada-reference/canada-178912
“... the Iroquois may have committed genocide against the Huron, who ceased to exist as a confederacy in 1649.â€
http://www.peace.mb.ca/00.Native/nlr...holocaust.html
“Iroquois attacks
“But suddenly a greater threat was upon them all. The Iroquois were making ever deeper raids into Huron territory, their eyes on control of the fur trade. Since they could not make a deal with the Hurons, they decided to exterminate them. It was a deadly struggle. Many people were killed, captured and tortured. At the same time the new faith in Jesus was spreading rapidly everywhere throughout the nation.
“Martyrdom
“In March of 1649 the Iroquois launched a series of surprise attacks on the Huron villages and burned them to the ground. People young and old were slaughtered mercilessly. The Iroquois hated the Black Robes and the new religion even more than they hated the Hurons. A host of Huron Christians and their priests were captured and forced to run the gauntlet. Hundreds were horribly tortured to death.
“Numerous stories have been handed on of these first Native martyrs for Christ. Men, women and children refused to give up their faith preferring torture and death to losing eternity. Their enemies were astonished at how they faced their deaths joyfully praising God.â€
This narrative is omitted from the atheistic left wing revisionism of the “evil†Europeans. Can’t have the students get the idea that a “godless†stone age tribe would engage in genocide.
.....
Why did so many Native Americans die of European diseases but not vice versa? – The Straight Dope
...The natives had no resistance to smallpox, influenza, or plague or even to mild (to us) diseases like measles. Entire populations were virtually wiped out, with some Atlantic coast tribes losing 90 percent of their adult members. Some historians go so far as to say European diseases reduced the pre-contact population of the New World as a whole by 90 percent or more.
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Old 09-17-2018, 08:18 PM
 
Location: Manchester NH
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And since there never was genocide, all your posts are a large accumulation of revisionist heifer dung.

Small reminder of FACT.
90-95% of Amerindian deaths on both continents are attributed to Eurasian diseases that decimated the population.

Amerindian tribes practiced adverse possession, continually fighting to defend and expand their hunting grounds, due to the large expanse of land needed to support a hunter-gatherer lifestyle. Their nomadic lifestyle was enhanced by the introduction of horses, by the Spanish.

European settlers who improved the land, were able to support far more people. However, agriculture requires exclusive use of land, lest the crops be trampled by herds, or taken by gatherers. This was the foundation of the conflict that underpinned the necessity to exclude Amerindians via reservations. Their lifestyle was wholly incompatible with the more advanced European model.


NOBLE SAVAGE?

...
http://www.enotes.com/canada-reference/canada-178912
“... the Iroquois may have committed genocide against the Huron, who ceased to exist as a confederacy in 1649.â€
http://www.peace.mb.ca/00.Native/nlr...holocaust.html
“Iroquois attacks
“But suddenly a greater threat was upon them all. The Iroquois were making ever deeper raids into Huron territory, their eyes on control of the fur trade. Since they could not make a deal with the Hurons, they decided to exterminate them. It was a deadly struggle. Many people were killed, captured and tortured. At the same time the new faith in Jesus was spreading rapidly everywhere throughout the nation.
“Martyrdom
“In March of 1649 the Iroquois launched a series of surprise attacks on the Huron villages and burned them to the ground. People young and old were slaughtered mercilessly. The Iroquois hated the Black Robes and the new religion even more than they hated the Hurons. A host of Huron Christians and their priests were captured and forced to run the gauntlet. Hundreds were horribly tortured to death.
“Numerous stories have been handed on of these first Native martyrs for Christ. Men, women and children refused to give up their faith preferring torture and death to losing eternity. Their enemies were astonished at how they faced their deaths joyfully praising God.â€
This narrative is omitted from the atheistic left wing revisionism of the “evil†Europeans. Can’t have the students get the idea that a “godless†stone age tribe would engage in genocide.
.....
Why did so many Native Americans die of European diseases but not vice versa? – The Straight Dope
...The natives had no resistance to smallpox, influenza, or plague or even to mild (to us) diseases like measles. Entire populations were virtually wiped out, with some Atlantic coast tribes losing 90 percent of their adult members. Some historians go so far as to say European diseases reduced the pre-contact population of the New World as a whole by 90 percent or more.
Genocide is not defined by degree.

This was genocide: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wounded_Knee_Massacre

And there are 100s of more examples.
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Old 09-17-2018, 08:55 PM
 
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Genocide is not defined by degree.

This was genocide: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wounded_Knee_Massacre

And there are 100s of more examples.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_massacre_of_1622

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During the one-day surprise attack, the Powhatan tribes attacked many of the smaller communities, including Henricus and its fledgling college for children of natives and settlers alike. At Martin's Hundred, they killed more than half the population of Wolstenholme Towne, where only two houses and a part of a church were left standing. In all, the Powhatan killed about four hundred colonists (a third of the white population) and took 20 women captive. The captives lived and worked as Powhatan Indians until their deaths or ransom. The settlers abandoned the Falling Creek Ironworks, Henricus and Smith's Hundred.
Indians and settlers were often enemies but sometimes allies.

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Jamestown was saved by the warning of an Indian youth living in the home of one of the colonists, Richard Pace. The Indian woke Pace and told him of the planned attack. Living across the river from Jamestown, Pace secured his family and rowed to the settlement to spread the alarm. Jamestown increased its defenses.
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Old 09-17-2018, 08:58 PM
 
Location: Manchester NH
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_massacre_of_1622



Indians and settlers were often enemies but sometimes allies.
That was after Columbus invaded and raped all their woman. They saw the white man as the invader, and they were right.
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Old 09-17-2018, 09:04 PM
 
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Although Americans are invaders, but we can`t deny that Americans make this land better.
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Old 09-17-2018, 09:06 PM
 
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That was after Columbus invaded and raped all their woman. They saw the white man as the invader, and they were right.
Man you really are off the rails. Columbus was never any where near Virginia and this Indian tribe never saw a European before the English colonist arrived. So now you say it was okay to attempt to genocide and massacre all the whites even women and children. Your mentality is just rabidly anti-white like I knew from the get go.
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