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Old 09-26-2018, 12:18 PM
 
Location: Great Britain
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The only one in there that is an accusation is the wiretapping, which did occur.

Right, so some citizen journalist makes a claim and that to you is proof? Even though the government can't confirm it?

Just putting up some passport photos and labelling them with a different name doesn't PROVE anything. I could do that right now. If I had your passport photos, I could post them with a different name and claim you're a spy.
No you couldn't.

The passport photos were taken from a file based and conincide with the photos of the two men who entered the UK both men were known to be travelling under false names. The passprt data even showed links to the Russian Security Service and it was later confirmed that one was Colonel Anatoliy Vladimirovich Chepiga who had previously received a medal from Putin.

Skripal Suspect Boshirov Identified as GRU Colonel Anatoliy Chepiga - Bellingcat

Skripal Suspects Confirmed as GRU Operatives: Prior European Operations Disclosed - Bellingcat

Skripal Poisoning Suspect’s Passport Data Shows Link to Security Services - Belingcat

I also expect the UK Authorities will confirm their identities, although it's likely MI5, MI6 and GCHQ already know who they are.
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Old 09-26-2018, 12:19 PM
 
Location: Eastern NC
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No proof.

What Russian city are you from again comrade?
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Old 09-26-2018, 12:19 PM
 
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I honestly don't care....Russia used polonium to kill before and we didn't go to war with them over it.

We're not going to start a hot war with Russia over them killing a former spy that was traded to the west in an exchange.

There are better ways to strike at Russia covertly (which we've likely already done), which makes me wonder which came first? Is this Russia getting even for something we did or our turn to get even etc? lol.
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Old 09-26-2018, 12:21 PM
 
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So whats your excuse for these two guys having a GRU phone number on their passports then? Come on, this should be fascinating.
Passports don't have phone numbers on them! Where is the phone number on a passport, show us?

And do you REALLY expect anyone to believe that even if this outlandish idea were true, that spies would be so careless as to put their government phone number on a passport when they are supposedly using an alias and pretending to be civilian tourists?

That's about as believable as the fake story, never substantiated, but circulated by the proven liar James Clapper, that the "proof" that Russians were behind the hacks into the DNC was that they left behind documents in Cyrillic. Like hackers LEAVE stuff behind! They take stuff, they don't leave stuff. That's nuts.

Its like a top jewel thief dropping his wallet complete with ID/drivers license in the museum during the heist of the worlds most famous diamond.

It doesn't happen. Nobody is so reckless/careless let alone people trained and experienced in tradecraft.
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Old 09-26-2018, 12:23 PM
 
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No you couldn't.

The passport photos were taken from a file based and conincide with the photos of the two men who entered the UK both men were known to be travelling under false names. The passprt data even showed links to the Russian Security Service and it was later confirmed that one was Colonel Anatoliy Vladimirovich Chepiga who had previously received a medal from Putin.

Skripal Suspect Boshirov Identified as GRU Colonel Anatoliy Chepiga - Bellingcat

Skripal Suspects Confirmed as GRU Operatives: Prior European Operations Disclosed - Bellingcat

Skripal Poisoning Suspect’s Passport Data Shows Link to Security Services - Belingcat
How in the world would you know where that photo is from?

You're linking to an amateur blogger's site, you do realize that "bellingcat" is just some dude with a website, right?

For chrissakes, you must think everyone is a total rube.
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Old 09-26-2018, 12:27 PM
 
Location: Great Britain
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How in the world would you know where that photo is from?

You're linking to an amateur blogger's site, you do realize that "bellingcat" is just some dude with a website, right?

For chrissakes, you must think everyone is a total rube.
It's a respocted site and was working with The Insider, and they reviewed original records from the central Russian passport and residential registration database and have identified the passport files belonging to the two suspects.

They also reviewed Colonel Anatoliy Chepiga's military career including his time in Russian Special Forces and time in the GRU, the data relating to the files is also marked in a way that links people to the security services.

Sergei Viktorovich Skripal is a former Russian military intelligence officer in the GRU who acted as a double agent for the UK's intelligence services and was seen as a traitor by Putin and the GRU.

Which is the real reason these two GRU Officer travelled to London and then Salisbury and why they left a trial of poison stretching from their East Loindon hotel room to Salisbury.
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Old 09-26-2018, 12:29 PM
 
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It's a respocted site and was working with The Insider, and they reviewed original records from the central Russian passport and residential registration database and have identified the passport files belonging to the two suspects.

They also reviewed
There is no PROOF of any of this. This passport snapshot is totally innocuous. Its a passport, it does not contain any phone numbers, it does not contain any secret decoder ring information . so the proof this guy isn't who he says it is, is a passport photo plus a bunch of screenshots someone took online that are in no way connected to the passport itself.

That's pretty bizarre even for a conspiracy theory.
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Old 09-26-2018, 03:13 PM
 
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There is no PROOF of any of this. This passport snapshot is totally innocuous. Its a passport, it does not contain any phone numbers, it does not contain any secret decoder ring information . so the proof this guy isn't who he says it is, is a passport photo plus a bunch of screenshots someone took online that are in no way connected to the passport itself.

That's pretty bizarre even for a conspiracy theory.
https://theins.ru/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/dvtcnt.jpg


See that 195 number? Thats a russian phone number.


Any other gaslighting nonsense?
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Old 09-26-2018, 04:56 PM
 
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Putin's a truly scary guy, and only a real moron would be too blind to see it.

I wonder if Bush Jr. ever re-evaluated his assessment about looking into Putin's eyes and being reassured.
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Old 09-26-2018, 05:03 PM
 
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Putin's a truly scary guy, and only a real moron would be too blind to see it.

I wonder if Bush Jr. ever re-evaluated his assessment about looking into Putin's eyes and being reassured.
Putin can be. But Putin is also smart enough to know a nuclear war is a losing game. To Bush (and me) thats very re-assuring. He will crush you at poker, but refuse to play Russian roulette.
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