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Old 11-14-2018, 12:07 PM
 
Location: Near Falls Lake
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A very unfortunate event and perhaps some video will be forthcoming to clear up the matter as studies have shown that "eye" witnesses are often wrong.
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Old 11-14-2018, 12:07 PM
 
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A lot of people seem not to have read the story.

The story says:
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Jakia Woods lives in a house adjacent to Manny's parking lot. She said officers already on the scene had asked Roberson to release the suspect, and Roberson was complying, when another officer came through the bar's back door.

"Before [Roberson] could get up off of him, the officer comes flying out this door gun up," Woods said Tuesday afternoon while standing on her porch. "He says, 'Get on the ground,' and before he says 'ground,' he fires the first shot."

"Everybody is screaming and hollering," she said. "Even the officers were screaming and hollering, 'He's one of us. He's one of us. He's a security guard. He works here.' "

Witness Adam Harris told WGN-TV he saw the same thing. "Everybody is screaming out, 'He's a security guard,' " Harris said.
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Old 11-14-2018, 12:09 PM
 
Location: San Jose
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Generally when you are told to drop your gun by the police it's a good idea to do so.....immediately!
Easier said then done when in such a moment.
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Old 11-14-2018, 12:09 PM
 
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Well your point would be wrong then since their is no evidence that Jemel Roberson was a criminal.

Even the chief of police said this about him

What we have learned is Jemel Roberson was a brave man who was doing his best to end an active shooter situation at Manny’s Blue Room

The Midlothian Police Department is completely saddened by this tragic incident and we give our heartfelt condolences to Jemel, his family and his friends. There are no words that can be expressed as to the sorrow his family is dealing with.

Doesn't sound like you know much about this specific case. You should probably read up on it more before commenting on here.
Instead of lecturing ME about reading, how about YOU go and read up on the case.

https://wgntv.com/2018/11/11/multipl...ng-police-say/

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A spokeswoman for the Cook County Sheriff's Office said Roberson had a valid FOID card, but did not have a concealed-carry license.
Doing something without a license, especially carrying a loaded weapon in public makes someone a criminal, sorry if you don't like that.
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Old 11-14-2018, 12:10 PM
 
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So now the good guy is being called stupid for not dropping his weapon immediately even though most witnesses say he didn’t have time to drop it before shots were fired?

I swear... folks always find a way to make a Black victim into a bad guy.
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Old 11-14-2018, 12:11 PM
 
Location: Home is Where You Park It
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Generally when you are told to drop your gun by the police it's a good idea to do so.....immediately!
True - IF that is what happened.

Witnesses and cops are telling very different stories.

Security footage hasn't been released.
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Old 11-14-2018, 12:13 PM
 
Location: MS
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The gun fetishists are too busy attacking doctors to notice.
6 posts to make it sexual. You guys never disappoint.
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Old 11-14-2018, 12:14 PM
 
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From the same article you're linking to:



So the police claim that witnesses said one thing, but witnesses are coming forward publicly and stating the exact opposite. We already know that the police aren't always honest in situations like these, and here they SEEM to be outright lying.
And from the same article

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In a statement released late Tuesday night, the Illinois State Police said that according to witness statements, an officer from the nearby village of Midlothian gave Roberson "multiple verbal commands to drop the gun and get on the ground before ultimately discharging his weapon and striking the subject."

The agency said Roberson was in "plain black clothing with no markings readily identifying him as a Security Guard."

That contradicts what people who said they witnessed the shooting told the media.
Sorry, but until a complete investigation is done and something contradicting the above statement comes out, I'm siding with what was given as witness statements vs. what someone told the media. One has legal repercussions if someone is lying, the other doesn't.

People are letting politics and emotion cloud their logic here.
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Old 11-14-2018, 12:14 PM
 
Location: Home is Where You Park It
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Instead of lecturing ME about reading, how about YOU go and read up on the case.

https://wgntv.com/2018/11/11/multipl...ng-police-say/



Doing something without a license, especially carrying a loaded weapon in public makes someone a criminal, sorry if you don't like that.
Does a security guard need a CCL when on duty? Serious question, I don't know.
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Old 11-14-2018, 12:15 PM
 
Location: San Jose
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Doing something without a license, especially carrying a loaded weapon in public makes someone a criminal, sorry if you don't like that.
Therefore its ok if he is shot and killed. Sorry but your logic is insanely dumb.
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