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Old 11-14-2018, 11:25 AM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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Originally Posted by trlhiker View Post
He was the black security guard who took down a thief then was shot and killed by police.

IOW, the 'good guy with a gun'
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Old 11-14-2018, 11:26 AM
 
Location: San Jose
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Sounds more like a cop problem than a gun problem, no?
Sounds like both.
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Old 11-14-2018, 11:28 AM
 
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Sounds like both.
Possibly, but the intent of OP is obviously to pick a fight about guns, and completely ignore the cop part.
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Old 11-14-2018, 11:29 AM
 
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There is nothing to say except he shouldn't have had that gun to begin with, he had no CCL and he shouldn't have been playing cop. It's sad that he got shot but it was a stupid thing to do in that situation.
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Old 11-14-2018, 11:31 AM
 
Location: San Jose
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Possibly, but the intent of OP is obviously to pick a fight about guns, and completely ignore the cop part.
The two are interlinked. If the population wasn't heavily armed cops wouldn't have to treat each individual they encounter as if they had a gun.
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Old 11-14-2018, 11:34 AM
 
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And actually just doing some quick reading:

https://www.npr.org/2018/11/14/66773...police-now-say

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In a statement released late Tuesday night, the Illinois State Police said that according to witness statements, an officer from the nearby village of Midlothian gave Roberson "multiple verbal commands to drop the gun and get on the ground before ultimately discharging his weapon and striking the subject."

The agency said Roberson was in "plain black clothing with no markings readily identifying him as a Security Guard."
Yeah, I retract what I said, doesn't sound like a cop problem. Sounds like a dummy problem where people still think they have something to gain by ignoring the demands of an officer with a gun pointed at them.
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Old 11-14-2018, 11:35 AM
 
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The two are interlinked. If the population wasn't heavily armed cops wouldn't have to treat each individual they encounter as if they had a gun.
He wasn't "treating him as IF he had a gun"

He had a gun in plain sight and was told multiple times to drop it.

Thats quite a spin you put on this unless I'm missing something?
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Old 11-14-2018, 11:37 AM
 
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I've been attacked by cops before, and I am a white woman. I was minding my business. I committed no crime. No one cared. Cops don't just target black people. Cops target people for whatever reason they have at the time. I don't ever trust cops.
Youre right. If more people complained (black or white) the attacks by cops probably would have stopped by now.
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Old 11-14-2018, 11:38 AM
 
Location: Home is Where You Park It
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There is nothing to say except he shouldn't have had that gun to begin with, he had no CCL and he shouldn't have been playing cop. It's sad that he got shot but it was a stupid thing to do in that situation.
So good guys with a gun should take no actions in a shooting situation?

Remind me. Have you ever made the argument that mass shootings wouldn't occur if there were more good guys with guns? Explain how that works if good guys with guns shouldn't use them.
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Old 11-14-2018, 11:39 AM
 
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And actually just doing some quick reading:

https://www.npr.org/2018/11/14/66773...police-now-say



Yeah, I retract what I said, doesn't sound like a cop problem. Sounds like a dummy problem where people still think they have something to gain by ignoring the demands of an officer with a gun pointed at them.
He wasn't even a real "Security Guard" that is legal to carry a weapon. He was a bouncer who was carrying illegally.
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