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You said My point was, criminal with a gun got shot.
My point to you is that the statements made by the Chief of Police indicate that the death of Mr Jamel was totally uncalled for and a complete tragedy. It comes across like you are attempting to justify his death.
No, you want me to come across as "justifying" his death because your anti-gun mentality needs to have someone to make a villain so that you can scare people and point at all of the horrible "gun nuts" or whatever your chosen pet name is.
Like I said, I'm not happy someone died, but at the end of the day the man who the police killed was committing a criminal act by carrying a loaded weapon in public without a license. A law was clearly and intentionally broken. The person breaking the law knows the stigma and alarm raised by such an act. Although the consequences for him were tragic, they were certainly not an unknown, especially in todays tense times.
There is a lot of discussion at the different gun related forums I frequent. Should we be protesting in the street? I can't until after work.
Where are the moderate gun owners when something like this happens? You all pounced on Muslims for not speaking up after terrorist attacks, where are you lot after events like this?
In fact, I know a lot of people in personal security and all are trained and most have former military experience.
OK then. Personally, I assume that a person officially employed as a security guard and on duty has the requisite training and official paperwork. What do you assume?
So we're waiting on the release of the security footage in order to determine which story is more credible - the cops' story or the witnesses' story.
Now I have no idea what is on those tapes - and neither do you - but I have to admit that I suspect those tapes would be in circulation right this minute if they unambiguously supported the cops' version.
No, you want me to come across as "justifying" his death because your anti-gun mentality needs to have someone to make a villain so that you can scare people and point at all of the horrible "gun nuts" or whatever your chosen pet name is.
I just calling you out on a statement you made. No need to feel sorry for yourself.
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Like I said, I'm not happy someone died, but at the end of the day the man who the police killed was committing a criminal act by carrying a loaded weapon in public without a license. A law was clearly and intentionally broken. The person breaking the law knows the stigma and alarm raised by such an act. Although the consequences for him were tragic, they were certainly not an unknown, especially in todays tense times.
Again you are attempting to justify him being shot. What the trigger happy cop did was completely uncalled for and unprofessional.
No, you want me to come across as "justifying" his death because your anti-gun mentality needs to have someone to make a villain so that you can scare people and point at all of the horrible "gun nuts" or whatever your chosen pet name is.
Like I said, I'm not happy someone died, but at the end of the day the man who the police killed was committing a criminal act by carrying a loaded weapon in public without a license. A law was clearly and intentionally broken. The person breaking the law knows the stigma and alarm raised by such an act. Although the consequences for him were tragic, they were certainly not an unknown, especially in todays tense times.
Yeah, I retract what I said, doesn't sound like a cop problem. Sounds like a dummy problem where people still think they have something to gain by ignoring the demands of an officer with a gun pointed at them.
Bar kicked out some rowdy drunks. Some or all of them returned and started shooting. Bouncer chased and captured one of the shooters outside. He had the shooter pressed down with his knee on his back and his gun pressed to his back.
Bouncer was not wearing attire that differentiated him from anyone else.
An officer reportedly told the bouncer to drop his gun, multiple times. The bouncer did not. The officer shot him 4 x.
Yeah, I retract what I said, doesn't sound like a cop problem. Sounds like a dummy problem where people still think they have something to gain by ignoring the demands of an officer with a gun pointed at them.
If you read the story, multiple witness's put the blame right on the cop as many were shouting that he was a security guard. Sounds like the cops are trying to cover their butts on this one.
So good guys with a gun should take no actions in a shooting situation?
Remind me. Have you ever made the argument that mass shootings wouldn't occur if there were more good guys with guns? Explain how that works if good guys with guns shouldn't use them.
Impossible to distinguish between a good and bad guy with a gun in the midst of a mass shooting.
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