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Old 01-07-2019, 11:41 AM
 
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They're idealists, that doesn't make them liars.
Yeah it does. They know better, they are empty promises.
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Old 01-07-2019, 11:46 AM
 
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Yeah it does. They know better, they are empty promises.
I don't think this Cortez knows they are empty promises and some ways that is very disturbing.
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Old 01-07-2019, 11:48 AM
 
Location: Pennsylvania
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I have a feeling Democrats will be the one getting her out of office, not Republicans.
Agree. She is an entertaining side show for conservatives. But for power entrenched liberals -- she is a real threat.
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Old 01-07-2019, 11:50 AM
 
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Agree. She is an entertaining side show for conservatives. But for power entrenched liberals -- she is a real threat.
That's how conservatives/Repubnlicans will play this -- that she is a threat...but i don't think so. Pelosi and this chick in a room -- who do you think comes out alive and smiling.
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Old 01-07-2019, 11:52 AM
 
Location: So Cal
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Agree. She is an entertaining side show for conservatives. But for power entrenched liberals -- she is a real threat.
Agreed.

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That's how conservatives/Repubnlicans will play this -- that she is a threat...but i don't think so. Pelosi and this chick in a room -- who do you think comes out alive and smiling.
Ol bug eyed Nancy would come out.
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Old 01-07-2019, 11:54 AM
 
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I don't think this Cortez knows they are empty promises and some ways that is very disturbing.

I'm not disturbed by it. Sometimes it's important to have someone come in with apparently "radical" ideas at the time in order to change the conversation. Long term that can lead to positive, tangible policy results, even if it's not perfectly in line with the vision of said idealist.


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Yeah it does. They know better, they are empty promises.

Ok, I can see there's going to be no point with you when you fall back on childlike responses like this. "They know better" is a conclusory statement based on nothing.
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Old 01-07-2019, 11:56 AM
 
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Agree. She is an entertaining side show for conservatives. But for power entrenched liberals -- she is a real threat.

and the reasoning IMO is that the democrats have been no more than republican "lite" since they passed the NAFTA republican policy in the 90's...the dems do nothing for working class
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Old 01-07-2019, 11:56 AM
 
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They're idealists, that doesn't make them liars.
Think it was her on the daily show. Every statistic she uses is a flat out exaggerated lie, and if she studied economics she knew that then.
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Old 01-07-2019, 11:56 AM
 
Location: Central New Jersey
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That woman is an idiot. The more she talks, the dumber she looks. Even dumber are the voters who elected her in.
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Old 01-07-2019, 11:58 AM
 
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I'm not disturbed by it. Sometimes it's important to have someone come in with apparently "radical" ideas at the time in order to change the conversation. Long term that can lead to positive, tangible policy results, even if it's not perfectly in line with the vision of said idealist.

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yes that's a good argument for tolerating a radical thinker.

My point, she may have a 1001 ideas and she can do a 1001 interviews spouting them.

Until it goes mainstream -- she's not a threat to me or anybody else.

I'm not a die hard liberal. I'm somewhere in between -- especially with fiscal policies. She doesn't make me nervous. She's not going to be a determining factor in a 2020 election. But conservatives/Republicans will try to make her out to be a threat to our democracy and blah blah blah. Swing voters are more thoughtful though and usually don't fall for the song and dance...sure they can but they don't usually stick by it.
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