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Old 12-14-2018, 01:35 PM
 
Location: Suburb of Chicago
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Originally Posted by chucksnee View Post
To be honest, she was probably in "heat Stroke"...


https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-...s/syc-20353581


A few people in this thread need to read up on it.....
No need - I've had it.

 
Old 12-14-2018, 01:38 PM
 
Location: Pennsylvania
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Sorry the little girl died.

The parents are responsible.
 
Old 12-14-2018, 01:39 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Originally Posted by Eumaois View Post
Nick Miroff and Robert Moore wrote a 12/13/18@9:55 PM WaPo article called: "7-year-old migrant girl taken into Border Patrol custody dies of dehydration, exhaustion". The article states with "A 7-year-old girl from Guatemala died of dehydration and shock after she was taken into Border Patrol custody last week for crossing from Mexico into the United States illegally with her father and a large group of migrants along a remote span of New Mexico desert, U.S. Customs and Border Protection said Thursday."

I wrote in the article comments section that


Thoughts?
More proof that:
A child who goes two days without food or water may not live.
Don't look to government to solve your problems.
 
Old 12-14-2018, 01:50 PM
 
Location: NJ
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Originally Posted by burdell View Post
US motto: Collateral damage, move along, nothing to see here.
Like blaming ICE for pregnant illegal aliens who give birth here.


blame the country she left! what was their responsibility??????


Kid was with parents, after capture, water was made available.


Dehydration and exhaustion does not sound right.


Was an autopsy performed or was it some spurious rumor she died of dehydration and exhaustion??


D&E may have been downstream of some other pathology.


So trump wants to stop illegal entry to prevent human trafficking drugs, child abuse, career criminals and gangs and you oppose any effort to support Trump. So it looks like any perception of collateral damage belongs squarely in your lap along with legislators who refuse to stop baiting illegal entry by not changing the laws.
 
Old 12-14-2018, 01:54 PM
 
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Who wants to bet that outrage tv turns this into “heartless usa” narrative?
 
Old 12-14-2018, 02:23 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Floorist View Post
WASHINGTON — A seven-year-old Guatemalan girl who died in the custody of U.S. Customs and Border Protection waited an hour-and-a-half before receiving emergency medical care after showing symptoms, officials said Friday
NBC of course leaves this out.....

Deceased Migrant Girl’s Father Did Not Report Illness for 7 Hours, Says CBP
Officials with U.S. Customs and Border Protection told reporters on a national conference call that the young girl was part of a large group of 163 migrants who illegally crossed the border at the Antelope Wells Port of Entry at about 10 p.m. on December 6. The port of entry was closed at the time of the crossing and the migrants entered the U.S. illegally, officials stated. In addition to large numbers of Family Unit Aliens (FMUA), the group contained at least 50 Unaccompanied Alien Children, according to the source who spoke on background
Due to the remote location, only four Border Patrol agents were available at the time for processing this group of migrants, the official stated. During the initial screening, the agents asked the migrants a series of 20 questions concerning their health and other demographic information. Officials said the agents asked the father the questions in Spanish and translated his answers to English for documentation on the form. The father reportedly checked the box on the I-779 immigration form that said his daughter had no current illnesses.
Of course NBC, WaPo, and the rest of the MSM will give little consideration of this STATEMENT from the Border Patrol. It doesn't fit their narrative. The NPCs will leave this topic now or pretend this statement doesn't exist. It's the same day after day. Their deranged attempt to make out Trump as a heartless individual who is ultimately responsible, has fallen flat on its face yet again.
 
Old 12-14-2018, 02:36 PM
 
Location: Upstate NY 🇺🇸
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Originally Posted by Three Wolves In Snow View Post
You're not "going to hell" for saying the truth, but you will "get hell" from the left for saying the truth.

The father is the sole reason that the kid died. Trying to pin this on the Border Patrol is disingenuous, at the least.

And let's not forget another issue here: that aliens, "asylum seekers," and "refugees" with who knows what illnesses are being allowed into this country to infect Americans. This child had a fever of 105.7°.

People had better wake up, and fast.
 
Old 12-14-2018, 02:46 PM
 
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Just an opinion based upon personal and anecdotal information:

Having wintered for 6 winters in the city of Yuma Az and spending the usual time visiting the border areas either ATV'ing or Harley riding to park in the indian owned parking lot at Algodonez and walking across for Mexican dinner, cheap alchohol, or leather goods shopping, I can attest to witnessing any number of border patrol/illegal entrant interchanges.

I've seen first hand groups of illegals numbering over twenty being "tended" to by Border Patrol agents who have secured them with zip-ties and are then hand holding bottled water to their mouths so they can each replenish lost hydration. They will often times continue to do this until the group is able to be transported to a detention center.

I've seen Border Patrol vehicles ordered up, arrive with flats of bottled water to distribute to these people. I've seen ambulances arrive, including helicopter EMT's land in the desert to treat the worst cases found by Border Patrol.
I've seen combative illegals having injured agents in fighting their capture arrive and be treated in the Emerge of Yuma General BEFORE the Border Patrol men got seen to for their injuries.

To accept the notion that something could have been done but wasn't is WRONG and requires you to think a whole agency staffed with the usual cross section of Americans has lost it's moral compass.

Patently false and impossible.

This child is a victim of firstly; her parent/s poor judgement, the lack of understanding of what desert heat and dryness does to the human body, especially small ones who are expending great energy traipsing through the wilderness of rough, hard and uneven ground.

She is also a victim of any number of governments who treat their citizens as so much fodder in their quest for their personal gain. While Honduras, Guatemala, and Columbia etc., are first and foremost among those ………...Mexico..are you listening?
Thank you for sharing your experience with BP activities. I agree with immigration reform but how we treat the people is also an issue.
 
Old 12-14-2018, 02:46 PM
 
Location: California
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From reading the articles the child was already very dehydrated and exhausted by the time she got to Border Patrol, which is not a hospital. She was airlifted via helicopter and given all treatments available , but she was too far gone to save her. Her parents put her in this position and the US provided expensive treatment including a very costly helicopter flight to save this child’s life,none of which her parents will ever be able to reimburse for. Instead they will most likely sue for negligence and end up millionaires. Just another example of what illegals cost this country daily. I’m very sorry this child died as it isn’t her fault at all but it’s not ours either. Plus this probably happens more than we know from dying out in the desert or river and nobody finds out about it.
 
Old 12-14-2018, 03:02 PM
 
Location: STL area
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That poster and others think this all happened in the 8 hours she was in the custody...she went from a happy go lucky little girl to being dead....and it all ONLY happened in those 8 hours....
Of course it didn't. There are signs before one begins to have seizures. I don't KNOW what happened, how many children were brought in, what was really possible.

However, knowing that a child was in the desert and that heat stroke and dehydration were very real risks for her...when the US brought this child into THEIR custody, they did have an obligation to check her health and well being. Perhaps there was a backlog, too many kids to check, not enough available staff. I have no idea. But if they were able to check her and did not, they hold some small part of the responsibility. The same way CPS holds responsibility for leaving children in abusive homes or missing symptoms when they take custody of a child. The parents are at the biggest and most fault, but when we take custody of children, we take on some obligations. Border Patrol didn't kill this girl, but they MAY have failed in their obligation to save her. MAY HAVE. I'm not going to pretend to be sure.
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