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Good. Let's have the Supreme Court strike down Obamacare. That will accelerate the implementation of Medicare For All. Having millions lose their coverage will put tremendous pressure on government to do something.
Estimated cost, next 10 years with the current Big Insurance system: $34T
Estimated cost, next 10 years with Medicare For All: $32T
What are we waiting for? Let's opt for MFA and save $2 trillion.
Do you really think that the Trump Administration could pull that together? Hell, they couldn't even come up with a plan better than the ACA. I don't see Dump spending the next 2 years trying to craft a healthcare policy.
It might take 2 years for this case to make it to the Sup Court. No, Trump is not going to support MFA -- which is fine, it becomes a campaign issue. MFA polls very well. Maybe we'll get a Dem congress and president who can deliver it.
My co-pays went from $30 to $50, and I can no longer go directly to a specialist without a referral first, so that $50 copay is usually $100 now. My premium went up over 20% per year, and my choices overall in the plan decreased, so yeah I'm with you on that.
You made out pretty good compared to me and a lot of others.
My wife needs an MRI for her back.
We're going to have to shell out the entire cost for it because now everything goes towards our deductible.
Do you really think that the Trump Administration could pull that together? Hell, they couldn't even come up with a plan better than the ACA.
I don't see Dump spending the next 2 years trying to craft a healthcare policy.
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Originally Posted by calipoppy
The ruling of the Texas judge will be overturned at the federal level.
Try again Trump-dumps
SCOTUS is and will be loaded with conservatives. So I would not bet that they will side with liberals.
It'll be up to Nancy and Mitch - not Trump. I can't imagine what objection the NeverTrumpers will have, but it'll be something.
Trump voters that just got laid off at GM suffer another blow. Ha ha ha.
I also find it hilarious that the most staunch Trump supporters (the trailer park crowd living in Meth Alley/Rust Belt/Redneckistan USA) are being hurt the most by his lack of leadership.
Just a heads up....US taxpayers are paying more than Canadians now, and we afford universal care, why can't you?
The tax rate for a married couple with one income and two kids in the U.S. is 12 times as high as the tax rate on the same family in Canada.
No, that's not a typo.
It's among new data from the OECD, which shows that the old belief Canadians are a higher-taxed people than Americans is no longer true. The numbers are all the more remarkable when considering how much more value for money Canadian wage earners get for their taxes than Americans — our universal health care system being one obvious example.
I was recently in Quebec for a couple of weeks on business. While I was there I was made painfully aware that Canada's "universal healthcare" ain't so universal.
My Canadian counterpart that I was working with was suffering from a hernia.
When I inquired about how the country's system would handle it, he informed me that he just had to wait and live with it for four months after it was diagnosed before he could have surgery.
But that was okay he said, because it gave him time to save up the $4,000 that his share of the surgery would cost him.
Apparently how long you have to wait and how much you have to pay is calculated by some sort of lottery system that depends on what your condition is, where you live and how much money you make.
Doesn't sound very "universal" to me.
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And BTW, one of the reasons that you can afford a national healthcare system is because America is by and large footing the bill for your national defense.
Interesting the way these libs were all about the obviously partisan ruling of "constitutionality" of the Health Care Slavery Law, but now they conveniently ignore a ruling from the same system that says it is unconstitutional. ...
All these Court decisions appear to be a matter of angels dancing on the head of a pin. You know, a certain waste of effort that has little practical impact on the delivery of cost-efficient health care. Do I really think that Nancy and Mitch will follow Trump's dictum to now come up with a "great" health care system. Not possible.
Sure, I get that someone who feels ripped off (and rightly so for the impacts are disproportionate) by too-high ACA premiums "like" hearing that something might be "unconstitutional" because that's kind of a F-u response to what certainly struck them as unfair.
But with one's personal health a roll of a dice and our current system a financial mess, any crowing over "constitutionality" strikes me as a tad misplaced. Childish, really. That becomes another form of playing politics when what are needed are solutions or (from an ethical POV) good-faith attempts at solution.
But then like I said, me, personally I don't think we'll reach solutions. Who really believes that in this political environment we can dismantle or rather address our current cost structure. That would require an entire reworking of how we provide health care - in a way that many would find unAmerican.
A decade ago I was somewhat unenthusiastic about the ACA thinking it would be economically dysfunctional to overlay it on our current health economics. But since I had good health care, who was I to deny (or vote against or oppose) it to others. Any simple move to universal health care without that total rewrite would be equally problematic. So dunno ...in the meantime you can go out today and sign up for a new ACA policy. And back to Court we go.
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