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The demographic that might lose health insurance was already voting Democrat.
Nope.... we have tons of threads of Republicans complaining about THEIR coverage costs on ACA. It is a stretch to believe that those loosing health care insurance is mostly Democrat. A lot of small business and independent workers are relying on ACA now and a lot of them no doubt are Republican leaning.
What's your point? Do you think the government should be Santa?...I thought we were talking about insurance here.
In Canada health care is a right, cars, homes and other material things are not...Use your brain.
I am using my brain. You seem to not be, however. How is "health care" a right? Logically spell that out for me. Since when is the service of others to you a right? And if it is then why are not other services a right? Why not a home or car? Why shouldn't an auto worker or a construction worker be the same kind of indentured servant to you as you feel doctors and nurses should be? And how about your profession? Why shouldn't the labor you perform be considered a "right" by someone else?
"Health care" is not a right. There is no logical argument that it should be. If there were, then every human endeavor on the face of the planet could also be argued to be a "right." The only natural "right" you have, is the right to not have others enslave you, and to make your own choices regarding your property (your body and legally owned assets). There is no "right" to services provided by others.
my question is two part for those happy about this------who will insure those with pre-exsisting conditions and how will one afford the premiums unless one has millions?
Also why should another party have to fix what the current ruling party has continuously screwed up without any fixes????
One must look behind the scenes here. We can look at the immediate effect and see millions of people thrown off of Obamacare. Are we now going to see a republican attempt to create a new law that will be to corporate likings. Will it be designed to replace/incorporate Medicare. Will some judge from Texas then cut everyone off at the knees?
That's patently laughable considering the fact that Obamacare was actually WRITTEN by insurance industry lobbyists.
my question is two part for those happy about this------who will insure those with pre-exsisting conditions and how will one afford the premiums unless one has millions?
Also why should another party have to fix what the current ruling party has continuously screwed up without any fixes????
It shouldn't be "insurance" that takes care of that. Maybe instead of being hung up on forcing a round peg into a square hole, a completely different solution is needed for that.
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Insurance: a thing providing protection against a possible eventuality.
There goes my planned early retirement. Guess I'll be forced to work until 65 when medicare kicks in because employer sponsored insurance will be necessary since individual health insurance will be able to refuse to cover people with pre-existing conditions.
That's an issue for State insurance regulators.
Why don't you get off your butt and form a lobbying group to lobby your State legislators?
You can lobby your State legislators to include pre-existing conditions.
While you're at it, you can lobby your State legislators to repeal the laws written by the American Hospital Association that created "Out-of-Network" insurance, so all insurance is "In-Network."
And, you can lobby to repeal the "enabling laws" created by the American Hospital Association that let hospitals run as monopolies and monopolistic carters which illegally collude to illegally fix prices above market rates to dramatically reduce hospitalization costs.
And, you can also lobby your State legislators to repeal all of the mandates, so that buying health insurance is like buying auto or home insurance, where you buy a basic plan, and then buy add-ons that you want, so if you want $50,000 in emergency room coverage, you buy it and pay extra for it, and if you want $750,000 in emergency room coverage, you buy it and pay a lot more extra, and if you want pregnancy/maternity coverage, you buy it and pay extra, and if you want birth control coverage, you buy it and pay extra, and if you want doctor office visits covered, you buy it and pay extra, and if you want drugs covered, you buy it and pay extra.
That way, seniors and the elderly aren't forced to pay for coverage they cannot use, like pregnancy/maternity and birth control, and your average American isn't forced to pay for doctors office visits they can't use and prescription drug coverage they cannot sue, because they never meet the annual deductible.
That would make it affordable for everyone.
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And people are shocked when they see USA life spans decreasing.
Your life-span is decreasing due to gun-related gang violence and the opioid epidemic, and neither have anything to do with healthcare.
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I'm a Trump supporter, but I'm against this. I don't believe an activist, state judge, should be able to dictate national policy.
You're a federal republic, so you don't have national anything, and it is the duty of the courts to interpret laws Congress enacts.
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Republicans haven't been able to produce a better plan.
Republicans don't have to, since both health insurance and medical care are intra-State commerce and Congress has no control or authority over intra-State commerce. You should read the Constitution at least once in your life.
Sure ... and by the AMA along with other interest groups ... then modified by various legislators to their political advantage. That's true for much of our legislation. And to dismiss it as outright graft would be too simplistic. Lobbyists provide much of the functional expertise.
My general recollection is that Clinton tried an alternative approach - writing draft legislation with a group of policy wonks. That failed - in part because it was not a Congressional "effort."
So, yeah, how to remove the profit incentive from healthcare legislation and healthcare itself is the question of the hour.
Sure ... and by the AMA along with other interest groups ... then modified by various legislators to their political advantage. That's true for much of our legislation. And to dismiss it as outright graft would be too simplistic.
Actually, no, it wouldn't. Obamacare was a get-rich-quick scheme imposed on everyone by the insurance industry and their lobbyists, and Obama, Pelosi, and Reid were whole-heartedly on board with the scam.
What's your point? Do you think the government should be Santa?...I thought we were talking about insurance here.
In Canada health care is a right, cars, homes and other material things are not...Use your brain.
Healthcare is a right but you don’t have the right to make me pay for your stuff.
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