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Old 12-27-2018, 09:50 PM
 
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Mulvaney himself said that Trump "now" understands he can't fire Powell...
Which means he did, indeed, think he had the power to fire him initially...

I don't care how smart Trump's uncle was
He isn't Trump
Trump could have been dropped on his head by a nanny when he was a baby--for all we know...

I think Trump's dad was pretty smart because he started all the tax evasion schemes that Trump just walked into after his dad died...
And Trump like any good grifter knows how to manipulate and charm
That doesn't mean he is intelligent
In fact people with 'native' intelligence are often very good at reading people if they can't read books

I imagine his IQ has dropped since he left Wharton
And I think based on what I notice comparing earlier interviews with Trump and later ones, he has a marked drop off in the ability to use a varied vocabulary and finish a sentence...
So likely dementia is making inroads
Or perhaps riding bareback led to other diseases...
Your assumptions lead to the conclusion that a man of beliw average intelligence was able to get himself elected to the highest office of the most powerful nation on a planet of nearly 7 billion individuals, in a largely self funded campaign with strong opposition from his own party..
Believe what you like. He is still the President.
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Old 12-27-2018, 10:05 PM
 
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So wrong--you assume Trump had no help beyond his own campaign team which is what he wanted people to think during the campaign but.....
We know now that he had the National Enquirer working hand in glove with his campaign
They were printing stories aimed to take out Trump's opponents all during the primaries and the HRC campaign.
EVERY week during his run against Clinton the NE ran a story that tried to eviscerate HRC...
I din't buy any but going through the check out line at WalMart or Kroger I would see the headlines and usually a ghastly photo
National Enquirer ran the story about Ted Cruz's father being part of the Kennedy Assination--
Who benefitted from that but Trump

It is all going to come out with the Election campaign violation that started with the payoffs to Daniels and McDougal that David pecker helped pay for...
EVERY cover story that hit out at Trump's opponents was a campaign donation in-kind---in good or service vs direct money contribution...and it was worth millions--
All undeclared as such and thus illegal...
MILLIONS in illegal donations
And David Pecker has made a deal with SDNY

Not only that but Trump got help from the Russians and Cambridge Analytica with its computer micro targeting
There is no way that a nothing computer dweeb like Brad Parscal was the sophisticated analytic guy he took credit for

They stole the election
They just didn't know if what they were doing w/Russian troll farms and CA/Robert Mercer's help would be enough to actually win---
But it was..
MAYBE Trump didn't even believe it would be enough but he did it to make some extra cash and because he thought it would help get his internet radio show off to a strong start...

But yes--he had help...
He had a lot of help he doesn't want to talk about
Like the millions from the NRA that likely came from illegal Russian donations...
And a good bit of all donations Trump likely pocketed by running false charges through his campaign and Trump co for campaign events, travel vouchers, hotel rooms that were never actually used but were claimed as expenses
#1 love the way you word pure speculation as "likely".
#2. Yeah sure the National Enquirer got Trump elected.... with the concerted effort of virtually al the medis to destroy him, who the hell would notice one sleazy tabloid?
#3 who in their right mind would change their vote from hillary to trump based upon supermarket tabloid covers or russian trolls on social media?
No one, thats who. The two candidates were so polarized tbe notion ia absurd. Moreover you conspiracy theorists have yet to trot out someone to publicly say they did.
#4 millions in illegal contributions.... like this?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1996...ce_controversy

Im sure you cared about that.
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Old 12-28-2018, 02:30 AM
 
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So wrong--you assume Trump had no help beyond his own campaign team which is what he wanted people to think during the campaign but.....
We know now that he had the National Enquirer working hand in glove with his campaign
They were printing stories aimed to take out Trump's opponents all during the primaries and the HRC campaign.
EVERY week during his run against Clinton the NE ran a story that tried to eviscerate HRC...
I din't buy any but going through the check out line at WalMart or Kroger I would see the headlines and usually a ghastly photo
National Enquirer ran the story about Ted Cruz's father being part of the Kennedy Assination--
Who benefitted from that but Trump

It is all going to come out with the Election campaign violation that started with the payoffs to Daniels and McDougal that David pecker helped pay for...
EVERY cover story that hit out at Trump's opponents was a campaign donation in-kind---in good or service vs direct money contribution...and it was worth millions--
All undeclared as such and thus illegal...
MILLIONS in illegal donations
And David Pecker has made a deal with SDNY

Not only that but Trump got help from the Russians and Cambridge Analytica with its computer micro targeting
There is no way that a nothing computer dweeb like Brad Parscal was the sophisticated analytic guy he took credit for

They stole the election
They just didn't know if what they were doing w/Russian troll farms and CA/Robert Mercer's help would be enough to actually win---
But it was..
MAYBE Trump didn't even believe it would be enough but he did it to make some extra cash and because he thought it would help get his internet radio show off to a strong start...

But yes--he had help...
He had a lot of help he doesn't want to talk about
Like the millions from the NRA that likely came from illegal Russian donations...
And a good bit of all donations Trump likely pocketed by running false charges through his campaign and Trump co for campaign events, travel vouchers, hotel rooms that were never actually used but were claimed as expenses
LOL, the National Enquirer won the election for Trump.

You read it here, folks!
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Old 12-28-2018, 02:44 AM
 
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He was smart enough to beat Hillary, that counts for something.
The Electoral College wasn`t Trump`s idea. That`s what beat Hillary.
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Old 12-28-2018, 02:53 AM
 
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Your assumptions lead to the conclusion that a man of beliw average intelligence was able to get himself elected to the highest office of the most powerful nation on a planet of nearly 7 billion individuals, in a largely self funded campaign with strong opposition from his own party..
Believe what you like. He is still the President.
Using racial and religious hatred to gain the Whitehouse is a first for this country. He`s a real pioneer and a great role model for children. When he lied about Mexico buying us a free wall to cower behind, millions of simple minded drooling racist goobers all wanted to have his baby and they still do. He`s below average intelligence but he knows what sells.
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Old 12-28-2018, 04:49 AM
 
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Well, it took a lot of idiots to vote for Trump. I sure didn't vote for him after all the things he said and did during the election. If I did vote for him, I don't see how I could be living with myself from feeling like a gullible fool and idiot. Trump is a slick shyster in his own way. Who knows what he says about his voters behind their backs?
Scarily, he is not slick at all. That he ran his businesses by not paying his bills, ran them to bankruptcy anyway, couldn't get a loan in the US to save his life and would have been richer by far if he had just invested his inheritance was well known before the election. All of this before he showed his stripes. And when he did show his stripes , his fans LOVED IT.
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Old 12-28-2018, 06:12 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Scarily, he is not slick at all. That he ran his businesses by not paying his bills, ran them to bankruptcy anyway, couldn't get a loan in the US to save his life and would have been richer by far if he had just invested his inheritance was well known before the election. All of this before he showed his stripes. And when he did show his stripes , his fans LOVED IT.



You don't stay in business and bank like Trump, if that were remotely true.
You sound envious and jealous.
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Old 12-28-2018, 06:53 AM
 
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#1 love the way you word pure speculation as "likely".
#2. Yeah sure the National Enquirer got Trump elected.... with the concerted effort of virtually al the medis to destroy him, who the hell would notice one sleazy tabloid?
#3 who in their right mind would change their vote from hillary to trump based upon supermarket tabloid covers or russian trolls on social media?
No one, thats who. The two candidates were so polarized tbe notion ia absurd. Moreover you conspiracy theorists have yet to trot out someone to publicly say they did.
#4 millions in illegal contributions.... like this?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1996...ce_controversy

Im sure you cared about that.
1--evidence is there--not just speculation on my part
2--Trump's base was the one most influenced by the NE's articles--
You know who shops at WalMart--and so does Trump--why do you think he and David Pecker have been involved for decades in presenting Trump in favorable light???
3--People who fall into the category Trump was targeting--the disaffected
Propaganda works in SUBLIMINAL manner to influence people's perceptions--
Meaning they don't know they were manipulated--
Maybe it only pushed them to NOT vote--that can be just as significant as pushing them TO vote
And I don't know that anyone WOULD be willing to admit they were duped by something like NE stories
And if they did would you believe them???
#4--I didn't write any of this campaign law/regulations
Congress usually finds a way to thread the needle and allow loopholes that lobbyists and campaigns can take advantage of
I just know that the NRA got more money from certain donors with Russian ties than ever before--for ANY election
And that the NRA gave Trump more money than it has any other GOP candidate...
That's math that has been reported and verified...
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Old 12-28-2018, 06:56 AM
 
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https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2018/12/22/p...ike/index.html

Any business man worth his salt who had dealt with interest rate and liquidity issues caused by various Fed chairmen and with Fed policies over the 50 years he has been in business...
Any man who has donated to politicians and pal-ed around with politicians over the years...
Any man claiming to be a Wharton business graduate...
Any man who has the gall to think he is competent to run for President (3 times all total)...
And finally--
Any man who IS POTUS and actually APPOINTS someone to be Fed chairman...

And does not know this is an appointment for a specific term and not a "fire-able" contestant...

Well, that man is just an idiot...

totally unconcerned with who he puts in one of the most powerful and unrestrained-from-his-influence posts,
Someone who orchestrates the American monetary system, the American dollar and thus its global influence, and has tremendous power to thwart a President's policies and objectives...

Johnson went through battles with McChesney but Johnson never asked anyone if he couldn't just 'fire him" to find someone more willing to kowtow to his wishes...

This whining about why he can't just fire Powell and install some lickspittal to smooth out fissures causing Trump problems with the economy and the market are markers of Trump's "business" attitude maybe--
If someone doesn't give the boss results that s/he like--when the boss is responsible for poor communication, and created part of the problems to start with--maybe the boss can fire that employee--
But it doesn't happen that way between the Fed Chairman and the President...

He certainly knew Kavanaugh was a lifetime appointment to the Supreme Court--
He wanted him in there where he couldn't be prised out because he is viewed as a conservatist' wet dream
Lot of self-protection involved with that choice as well...
Powell was just another job slot he had to nominate someone to fill--and maybe he thought Powell would be grateful to get the nod that he would kiss the ring when asked...
Didn't spend lot of time analyzing the man--probably spent no time at all considering various situations that might occur and forecasting how Powell might respond--
Wonder how long the interview lasted if there was one face to face...

Kicking the door he stubs his toe on is an immature action by a child which you might excuse--
But acting like a child when faced with a situation HE is responsible for--that's pure Trump

Just another example of why he is an embarassment to himself and this country...



These thread claiming the president is an "idiot" harken to those condemning Bush II. Ironically, when John Kerry was running against Bush, the "genius" John Kerry had a lower measured IQ (both had IQ scores registered with the military)!


Similarly, I have had more than a few patients who were very low IQ individuals who did not graduate from high school who called Bush and Trump "idiots"!


The left condemns all those who do not agree with their views as "idiots", so this is nothing new. Too bad that those who claim to be so inclusive and "tolerant" are the most intolerant and intransigent people I have ever encountered.
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Old 12-28-2018, 07:14 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Cool PULEEZE--don't claim Trump is smart anymore...

Well, there's one thing you can say about those who think tRump is smart.

He's definitely smarter than they are.

But then, that's a short putt.

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