*****Trump's gov't SHUTDOWN***** MERGED (Congress, illegal aliens, Pelosi, poll)

[ambient]

Originally Posted by joee5

Still YOUR President

Still YOUR failure if you voted for him.

[Joe the Photog]

Originally Posted by Frank DeForrest

No one person, no one profession, no one body of degenerate politicians should be able to crash an economy.

Better yet, it's time to make it impossible to shut down the government just because a man did not get his way.

[ColoradoOnMyMind]

If Nancy agreed it would of saved us money and helped secure the border.

[Tinawina]

Originally Posted by Ponderosa

Your expectations are too high. I don't care who is president, there are limits on his/her authority spelled out in the constitution. He/she can't make something happen just because it was promised to supporters. The party ended with the democratic take over of the House. Elections have consequences as they say. Trump learned that lesson and his devotees need to as well.

THIS!

I don’t even blame Trump. It’s us, because this is what we want. These days, the idea that “your side” can’t actually get everything it wants is some foreign concept. Trump wants a wall? That’s nice, but unless he can convince most of the county to go along the House won’t vote for it. So he’ll have to compromise, because that’s how the system works. Since when is he entitled to “win” just because he’s the President? He’s not.

But this “government by pundit ideologues” thing has folks feeling like any kind of compromise is the devil and a sign a of weakness. Very black and white thinking, also really childish IMO.

We don’t have a winner take all government and never did.

[atltechdude]

Originally Posted by Joe the Photog

Better yet, it's time to make it impossible to shut down the government just because a man did not get his way.

Agreed. There should be a law that if funding is not passed some continuing appropriations automatically kick in under the same terms as the last bill, essentially the same as passing a CR.

[ambient]

Trump is damn lucky that there wasn't a catastrophic accident or terrorist attack during the time he's weakening multiple layers of our aviation security infrastructure for his political gain.

[JAMS14]

Originally Posted by Joe the Photog

Better yet, it's time to make it impossible to shut down the government just because a man did not get his way.

I believe Pelosi and Schumer are working on legislation to do exactly that. I'm hoping it's in the agreement they come up with with the Republicans, who don't like shutdowns anymore than the Democrats do. And won't that be yet another great big kick in the balls to Trump? I so much hope that is part of the deal.

[subaru5555]

Originally Posted by Listener2307

Who cares? We have a $17,000 billion dollar economy. $6 billion is hardly measurable.

So much for the “party of fiscal conservatives”...

[petch751]

Originally Posted by cb2008

I am confused. So did he win? Or did Pelosi wipe the floor with him? What just happened?

It depends on your perspective.

Pelosi, who refused to negotiate even when gov't workers were not getting paid.

Trump reopened the gov't so people would get paid and because Pelosi said she would negotiate when the gov't was opened. Let's see what she does.

Border Control lost because it's still easy for illegal aliens to cross the border.

Illegal aliens won because they can easily cross the border.

The American people (people who pay for these people)) lost but as usual nothing changed.

[jeffdoorgunner]

Originally Posted by atltechdude

Agreed. There should be a law that if funding is not passed some continuing appropriations automatically kick in under the same terms as the last bill, essentially the same as passing a CR.

it will never happen because BOTH parties want to use it to hold each other hostage...…….