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Old 01-09-2019, 10:19 AM
 
Location: Homeless
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If only Californians would rake their forest like they do in Finland.
Yup more raking equals less fires lol. Of course this makes sense in the eyes of a Trump supporters.
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Old 01-09-2019, 10:22 AM
 
Location: West Michigan
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God that man is shallow and short-sighted. Once elected, a good president transitions to being the president of all Americans not just the ones who elected him. The word 'compromise' is not something he understands and you can't effectively govern a nation unless you do. Can't wait until he's out of office.
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Old 01-09-2019, 10:24 AM
 
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If only Californians would rake their forest like they do in Finland.

Forest fires have occurred forever, they are required for a healthy forest. In the past they would be frequent, perhaps every couple of decades or whatever. It moves quickly through the forest and it recovers quickly. We have been putting fires out for more than a century, this has resulted in vast quantities of fuel to accumulate in the forest. When you have a fire today not only is it almost impossible to control it also leaves a sterile landscape and the recovery can be quite long because they burn so hot and for a long time.



You need to do one of two things, allow them to return to a more natural state by not putting the fires out or manage that fuel by harvesting it.
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Old 01-09-2019, 10:24 AM
 
Location: In The Thin Air
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Oh, I thought California wanted to be its own Sanctuary and ignore the Federal Government? Let them all rot to death with the illegals

What's funny, though, is the implicit belief that a state should be able to do whatever it wants and not be regulated by the government - an intrinsically conservative value that liberals claim to detest
You thought? They pay more into the federal government then they get back. It would be interesting to know what would happen to the rest of the country if California seceded. Their economy is huge.

California better start raking those leaves.
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Old 01-09-2019, 10:25 AM
 
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Hmmm....last night, he was saying how he wants to help the situation at the border by citing how bad things were happening to women and children there. Now he says that if there's a fire in CA, they wont send emergency funds when there would likely be a lot of women and children affected. Hmmmmmm....shall I believe he actually cares about the plight of women and children or not?
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Old 01-09-2019, 10:26 AM
 
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https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...res/ar-BBS15Z2

How come he doesn't threaten to pull aid to Texas for flooding from Hurricane do to very poor development planning. Or Florida where the damage from the hurricane in the pan handle was exacerbated because fo substandard building code. Oh thats right. he counts on those states for votes.
Logical fallacy.

For one, forest management is something that can realistically be accomplished, whereas retroactively changing building codes, tearing down buildings, and rezoning entire cities is obviously not practical.

More to the point, this is yet another example of how democrats and the press try and manipulate voters into believing *everything* is Trump's fault, when in fact, democrats take responsibility for these issues as well. A reasonable solution to the FEMA funding issue is for Newsom to work with Trump on improving forest management, and in return, Trump should dial back the threats and keep the money flowing. That's called compromise.
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Old 01-09-2019, 10:32 AM
 
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Forest fires have occurred forever, they are required for a healthy forest. In the past they would be frequent, perhaps every couple of decades or whatever. It moves quickly through the forest and it recovers quickly. We have been putting fires out for than a century, this has resulted in vast quantities of fuel to accumulate in the forest. When you have a fire today not only is it almost impossible to control it also leaves a sterile landscape and the recovery can be quite long because they burn so hot and for a long time.



You need to do one of two things, allow them to return to a more natural state by not putting the fires out or manage that fuel by harvesting it.
Yes I understand controlled burns and harvesting. Not the same as what Trump said. You know fully well he said Finland rakes its forests.

And what about the fact that in Texas flooding was exacerbated by poor development, Ask an engineering firm in Texas. They were building in flood zone without any place for runoff.

Or in Florida panhandle where they thought the trees would shield them from a hurricane so they didn't need any hurricane resistance building code.


Why pick on California? This is Trump yet again playing politics over a serious matter.
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Old 01-09-2019, 10:32 AM
 
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God that man is shallow and short-sighted. Once elected, a good president transitions to being the president of all Americans not just the ones who elected him. The word 'compromise' is not something he understands and you can't effectively govern a nation unless you do. Can't wait until he's out of office.
Yea, just like Obama did, amirite? lmao

Sorry you have to wait another 6 years, maybe in the meantime you could do something with your life that doesn't revolve around having your entire emotional well-being tied to a political figurehead
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Old 01-09-2019, 10:34 AM
 
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Forrest who? Gump?
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Old 01-09-2019, 10:35 AM
 
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Logical fallacy.

For one, forest management is something that can realistically be accomplished, whereas retroactively changing building codes, tearing down buildings, and rezoning entire cities is obviously not practical.

More to the point, this is yet another example of how democrats and the press try and manipulate voters into believing *everything* is Trump's fault, when in fact, democrats take responsibility for these issues as well. A reasonable solution to the FEMA funding issue is for Newsom to work with Trump on improving forest management, and in return, Trump should dial back the threats and keep the money flowing. That's called compromise.
Not illogical at all. The ones I sated should have and were known at the time. Most of Florida already has hurricane building codes for instance. Moreover, alot of the damaged structures were new builds.
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