Kim Davis Owes $225K For Violating Civil Rights of Gay Couples (dollars, county)

[Dane_in_LA]

Originally Posted by Redmond1

I agree Jesus "said good stuff". Especially when he called out to his #1 persecutor, Saul , asking
"Why are you persecuting me Saul?"
"Who are you?" says saul (later known as apostle paul)
"I am the Lord Jesus, whom you are persecuting"
Then paul asks "What do you want me to do?"
And the rest is history
Acts 9:3-6
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage...6&version=NKJV

Jesus words verifying
he appointed Apostle paul
to carry his message to his own children
Found in Galatians 1
teaching Jesus love and commands
about his ultimate sacrifice
with how to be saved due to Jesus' love
(Apostle means "messenger)
This paul, formerly known as Saul
carries Jesus message after Jesus sacrifice


"Paul, an apostle--
sent not from men nor by a man, but by Jesus Christ
and God the Father, who raised him from the dead"
https://biblehub.com/galatians/1-1.htm


*Grace and peace to you from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ,
4*who gave himself for our sins to rescue us from the present evil age,


Jesus messenger, apostle paul wrote 1/3 of the New Testament
Yes, again, jesus, "said good stuff"
More "good stuff" from the divine Rabbi

Romans 1: 25-28 *They exchanged the truth about God for a lie,
and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator
26*Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts.
Even their women exchanged natural sexual relations for unnatural ones.
27*In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women
and were inflamed with lust for one another.
Men committed shameful acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their error.
28*Furthermore, just as they did not think it worthwhile to retain the knowledge of God, so God gave them over to a depraved mind, so that they do what ought not to be done.
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage...30&version=NIV

With relation to this Kim lady, if she does belong to Jesus,
she is expected to honor and obey Jesus words
via his messenger apostle paul
who wrote Romans and 1/3 of the New Testament
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage...30&version=NIV


As a Jesus follower aka Christian
like the Apostle paul
One ONLY has authority given by Lord Jesus
Through his messengers like paul, and his written word
to ordain in marriage
a man and a woman
per 1 Corinthians 7
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage...0Corinthians+7

Christians are not called to give up their jobs
But save for a rainy day like the ant parable
And it's commanded by Men
To provide for their families in EVERY WAY (small side-note)l Security today

Christians do not change with the times
Jesus doesn't change with the times
https://biblehub.com/hebrews/13-8.htm
Jesus is the same today, yesterday and always
As Christians grow, they are molded to be more like Jesus
Unchanging except to be more like Jesus

Yes, Jesus said "good stuff"
Found in the New Testament
While he walked on Earth
And after he died on the cross
And using his #1 appointed Messenger Apostle paul
To usher his children into the new covenant
Otherwise those souls not ushered in to the new law of love
where all the commandments hinge upon
where commandments do not condemn
but where Jesus fulfilled the laws/commandments
Otherwise....
Those who remain in the old covenant
Where the law is King
Where the law condemns
Where there is no blood sacrifice for sins
No love
Where those who don't believe in Jesus diety
reside and will reside, forever,
condemned.
If they make that choice

.

See, this is where we part ways. Because this Paul character had - issues.

[Redmond1]

Originally Posted by Dane_in_LA

Sure. Let's make the constituents shop around law clerks until they find one who'll agree to serve their kind. Separate, but equal, as it were. Civil rights, who needs them? Or, you know - Kim Davis could do her job according to law. Because rights aren't determined by the whim of some mid-level bureaucrat.

"their kind?"
They are of the human kind, like you are.
No matter what they seek, they are human just like you.
And they will seek fellow humans to fulfill their desires if they choose to. Good or bad.

[Dane_in_LA]

Originally Posted by Redmond1

"their kind?"
They are of the human kind, like you are.

Oh, goodie. Then they have the same rights.

[Redmond1]

Originally Posted by Dane_in_LA

See, this is where we part ways. Because this Paul character had - issues.

We all have issues. We are all of the human kind. I suggest you lower your standards.
Even your creator did so in choosing his #1 enemy to be his greatest supporter and lead others into the law of love.

Where sinners, thieves, liars, blasphemers, murderers, fornicators, homosexuals, adulterers, gossips, etc are not held to the holiest standard only Jesus himself, as a human, met. Instead he died an excruciating death to save his own children from their sins. His blood imputes righteousness into all sinners so they appear as righteous as Jesus. That is how Jesus and the father sees us. Not as sinners but as Saints. Though we will still sin.

Otherwise we remain in a depraved, hate filled state where we are our own Gods. No thank you

You responded so fast there is no way you read thru my post anyhow.

[Redmond1]

Originally Posted by Dane_in_LA

Oh, goodie. Then they have the same rights.

I didn't say the same rights. I commented upon your description of them being of some other kind.
They are of the HUMAN kind. Like you and me.
We are all held to the same earthly laws, ALL OF US. Good or bad.

[Dane_in_LA]

Originally Posted by Redmond1

I didn't say the same rights.

I somehow had a feeling that would be a problem.

I commented upon your description of them being of some other kind.
They are of the HUMAN kind. Like you and me.
We are all held to the same earthly laws, ALL OF US. Good or bad.

Sorta my point.

[Redmond1]

This is where the sheep and the goats are divided. Where the law of love wins out, eventually.

The poor and innocent...those who are often in deep pain due to bad teeth, bad water, sleeping out in the cold, holding the few part time jobs out there or seasonal jobs, who have little babies and children, who can barely pay rent...yes let's get them where it already hurts.

Maybe this couple will now go to ethiopia and try to fleece those poor and dying humans out of their last quarter to buy a slice of bread. When self righteous indignation overpowers the law of love, what all of the commandments hinge upon, this is the result. Maybe a few fathers will give up and commit suicide feeling so low about the next tax hike. Nothing left-over. Maybe they will give up.

Thank God he gives us the parable of the rich man and Lazarus. Some of us know the ending already. It's these times when it is difficult but we still have to have love, even for those who are un-lovable willing to harm the innocent in the worst way.

[jacqueg]

Originally Posted by Eumaois

I wonder where she will get that money to pay the couples.

Maybe Mike Huckabee will help her out.

[Goodnight]

Great news, is this supposedly Christian woman still with her same husband or is she on to her spouse #3.

[skeddy]

nobody is going to make her pay, don't be ridiculous