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Old 02-01-2019, 12:38 PM
 
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There was a restaurant in Boston that was pretty busy. The owner posted a rant on his website about resistance, And fighting the Trump supporters when Donny was elected. That restaurant is now gone.
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Old 02-01-2019, 12:40 PM
 
Location: Gaston, South Carolina
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I get whay you're saying. It's just that I do not compare a MAGA hat to a hat with a swastika on it. Sorry. Decent people all around should agree that the swastika (or a NAMBLA hat) is unacceptable in civilized society.
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Old 02-01-2019, 12:42 PM
 
Location: Suburb of Chicago
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Magahatters aren't a protected class.

But just like protected classes, this is good information to have since the people they loathe shouldn't a) put any money in their pocket, and b) trust that the food being served to them hasn't been messed with.
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Old 02-01-2019, 12:45 PM
 
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I don't agree with but neither did I agree with the cake baker turning away gays.


So I'm consistent; unsure about you.
I don't agree with turning away customers from a public establishment, but everyone has their rules.

"No shirt. No shoes. No Service." is a common one

I used to eat at a restaurant where any hat, regardless what was written on it, was supposed to be taken off. Anyone who kept their hat on inside was a doofus.
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Old 02-01-2019, 12:47 PM
 
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There are certain protected groups that according to the law, you cannot discriminate against.

Used to be that women were not allowed in certain establishments. Few places are like that these days.
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Old 02-01-2019, 12:49 PM
 
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Being a Trump supporter is not a legally protected class.
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Old 02-01-2019, 12:52 PM
 
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There are certain protected groups that according to the law, you cannot discriminate against.

Used to be that women were not allowed in certain establishments. Few places are like that these days.
there really should be no such law. You own it, you decide.
Businesses should be allowed to discriminate same as you do.
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Old 02-01-2019, 12:58 PM
 
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Get woke, go broke!

Dude is backpedaling... furiously: deletes tweet, scrubs twitter, issues half-assed apology:

https://twitter.com/kenjilopezalt/st...45906945781761
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Old 02-01-2019, 01:02 PM
 
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Oh for heaven's sake. The Colorado baker case gets trotted out every damn time something like this happens.

Here is the difference.

A hat is something you can take off. Political opinions are something you purposely adopt and can change.

Being gay is not.

Hat wearers and Trump supporters are not members of a legally protected class, about which there are laws that specifically do not allow you to refuse to serve them.

In Colorado, gay people are.

The bakers in Colorado would have been perfectly within their rights to refuse to make a cake that said "being gay is super awesome happy gay wedding day" or similar.

What they did was refuse to sell ANY cake. They refused to serve gay people in the way that they they routinely serve not gay people, because they did not want to serve gay people ANYTHING. That is why they got sued.

In short:

Discrimination over something you DO - not illegal, although maybe tacky and maybe not good business
Discrimination over something you ARE - illegal and also tacky and not good business unless your primary audience is other discriminatory people
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Old 02-01-2019, 01:11 PM
 
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Oh for heaven's sake. The Colorado baker case gets trotted out every damn time something like this happens.

Here is the difference.

A hat is something you can take off. Political opinions are something you purposely adopt and can change.

Being gay is not.

Hat wearers and Trump supporters are not members of a legally protected class, about which there are laws that specifically do not allow you to refuse to serve them.

In Colorado, gay people are.

The bakers in Colorado would have been perfectly within their rights to refuse to make a cake that said "being gay is super awesome happy gay wedding day" or similar.

What they did was refuse to sell ANY cake. They refused to serve gay people in the way that they they routinely serve not gay people, because they did not want to serve gay people ANYTHING. That is why they got sued.

In short:

Discrimination over something you DO - not illegal, although maybe tacky and maybe not good business
Discrimination over something you ARE - illegal and also tacky and not good business unless your primary audience is other discriminatory people
This is false. They refused to sell a cake for a gay marriage event. Presumably they would have done the same if it was a heterosexual wanting them to make a cake for a gay event. Presumably, if it was a gay person wanting to buy a wedding cake for a heterosexual ceremony, they would have sold it. Their rejection was aimed at the event not the person buying it, or so was their defense. You obviously don't understand this, so should not be commenting on it.

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