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Originally Posted by Cheesemont
LOL. It's amazing the rules these leftwing atheists think are 'tough'. No sleeping around, no boozing it up, no smoking. Go to church. This is a walk in the park for the vast majority of people. Maybe you need some new friends.
As for the corruption, I guess these leftwingers are conditioned to think how government acts. But I will say this for the 14th time. Unlike with the government, there is no large pool of money to be stolen, as 93% of all money is sent directly to other individual's homes. Could I make this any simpler?
In this country we have a separation of church and state and civil liberties, just as you choose to worship as you choose so have I. It is not your place to dictate what my moral criteria should be but your type is good at that. My friends are diverse and includes Christians the difference is they try to live their lives in a manner they view as Christian but accept that others must follow their own path. Their faith comes through in how they live and act not what they proselytize and they would never condemn someone for not being on the same path as them.
I'm not leftwinger but I don't blindly believe that those administering this policy are not taking care of themselves first as you said "administrative costs are cover first". Corruption in church's is just as prevalent as in government it just doesn't make the news as often....
You tell me what their pre-existing conditions were. It's your story.
Foe Zane the only preexisting condition was being an international adoption and getting the recommended blood screen which showed that he was healthy.
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Luckily, Zain was healthy. But Bet and Erik took him to the doctor for a general checkup when they arrived home, and as a precaution the pediatrician ordered a panel of blood tests recommended for international adoptees by the University of Minnesota.
“We had to have some medical testing done. All recommended international adoption medical testing came back normal and healthy. Praise God!”
Procedural question.
You say members send their monthly 'fee' directly to the claimant. So say your bill is $100,000.
Supposedy so cheap, let's keep the math simple and figure $100 per member. You need 1000 memebrs to send you money? You have to keep track of 1000 individual payments???
(I have to figure that I'm missing something here)
What if they all don't? Who keeps track of who did and who didn't?
Well, it doesn't help the vast majority of Christians, just some certain sect. I think of Jonestown and that idiot who brainwashed the believers into drinking the kool aid and they all died.
Most mainstream Christians are left out of this narrow minded sort of exclusive club for health care. That's why we need single payer, universal health insurance. Something with rules and laws that will protect us. There must be a way and it's got to be something better than this idea that only helps a select few, a few who seem to think they are superior to the rest of us.
Jonestown were atheists. Jim Jones was an atheist Marxist. That's why they wanted to build a center in the Soviet Union.
"In a 1976 phone conversation with John Maher, Jones alternately stated that he was an agnostic and an atheist.] Despite the Temple's fear that the Internal Revenue Service (IRS) was investigating its religious tax exemption, Marceline Jones admitted in a 1977 New York Times interview that Jones was trying to promote Marxism in the U.S. by mobilizing people through religion, citing Mao as his inspiration. She stated: "Jim used religion to try to get some people out of the opiate of religion", and had slammed the Bible on the table yelling "I've got to destroy this paper idol!" In one sermon, Jones said, "You're gonna help yourself, or you'll get no help! There's only one hope of glory; that's within you! Nobody's gonna come out of the sky! There's no heaven up there! We'll have to make heaven down here!" "
So how do Christians with a recent cancer experience or hereditary disease or preexisting condition get coverage? I think we can all agree is this is the crux of expensive health insurance as is the importance of taking the best care of your own God-given body.
Procedural question.
You say members send their monthly 'fee' directly to the claimant. So say your bill is $100,000.
Supposedy so cheap, let's keep the math simple and figure $100 per member. You need 1000 memebrs to send you money? You have to keep track of 1000 individual payments???
(I have to figure that I'm missing something here)
What if they all don't? Who keeps track of who did and who didn't?
You're correct in principle. In my case, my surgery was about $13000. Our family plan fee was $495, so we got like 26 checks from other family plan members, plus another smaller check. The amount was somewhat over, and we were told to keep the overage or donate it. You're supposed to keep a checklist and keep track of who gave you what and when, and enter it in the site. You're also expected to provide every receipt for everything. This is only logical, yet two of the 'complaints' against Samaritan that somebody in here cited as "people unhappy with Samaritan" were people griping about having to keep track. Nothing to do with the care. It's like "C'mon, people. Time to stop being infants."
If someone doesn't pay, then you let Samaritan know. They will give the person a couple of reminders. Then if it's still not happening, you are assigned another person to pay you.
So how do Christians with a recent cancer experience or hereditary disease or preexisting condition get coverage? I think we can all agree is this is the crux of expensive health insurance as is the importance of taking the best care of your own God-given body.
You have to have been cancer free for five years for Samaritan to pay for cancer treatment. Pre-existing conditions aren't covered, as they shouldn't be with insurance.
You have to have been cancer free for five years for Samaritan to pay for cancer treatment. Pre-existing conditions aren't covered, as they shouldn't be with insurance.
So how does a child who gets cancer get treatment if his or her family can't afford it? Or is it God's will that the poor just drop dead?
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Originally Posted by Cheesemont
The more I read the inane comments on here, the more I have reached the conclusion that what you people really want is welfare. Not insurance. Are all of you too young to remember 12 years ago and before where covering pre-existing conditions would have been seen as ludicrous for insurance companies to even consider? Do you people even know what insurance is? It's protection against FUTURE catastrophes. It's not a sugar daddy for all past bills to be paid.
Socialist 0bamacare bastardized the term and the process. It won't be enough to repeal this despised law. We will have to also repeal the nanny-state mindset. A much tougher job.
So according to you if I was born or incurred any multitude of conditions from asthma to diabetes to psoriasis prior to trying to join this policy none of it will be covered. What happens if we have a child born with a condition is that child condemned to death because it was preexisting? What world do you come from I have had insurance for 40+ years and don't ever recall "pre-existing" being exempt from coverage, yes extreme procedure were subject to pre-approval and that was often a battle but not pre-existing.
Insurance Definition:
Health insurance is insurance that covers the whole or a part of the risk of a person incurring medical expenses, spreading the risk over a large number of persons.
I don't see "FUTURE catastrophes" listed as a reason for the insurance...
Get over Obamacare! It was a start for good or bad has provided coverage for more people than anything congress has done. Let them do their jobs and develop an more viable program that includes holding the insurance companies accountable to their obligations something that is often missing.
Seeing you abhor the "nanny-state mindset" I think we should retract the tax exemption for all faiths with the exception of the house of worship and those programs that are run as pure charities such as food banks/shelters as for the rest of the assets tax them!
Wouldn't want them to think the government is a "sugar daddy", I know its a "mindset a much tougher job".
Since when is routine medical screening a preexisting condition?
Samaritan doesn't pay for routine check ups. You don't get insurance to pay for maintenance for you house or car. That's not what insurance is for. It's for the catastrophic.
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