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Old 02-03-2019, 07:23 AM
 
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So how do Christians with a recent cancer experience or hereditary disease or preexisting condition get coverage? I think we can all agree is this is the crux of expensive health insurance as is the importance of taking the best care of your own God-given body.
These Christians aren't allowed to participate in the Christian cost-share plans.

They must scramble among the heathens to find health insurance.

 
Old 02-03-2019, 07:25 AM
 
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So according to you if I was born or incurred any multitude of conditions from asthma to diabetes to psoriasis prior to trying to join this policy none of it will be covered. What happens if we have a child born with a condition is that child condemned to death because it was preexisting? What world do you come from I have had insurance for 40+ years and don't ever recall "pre-existing" being exempt from coverage, yes extreme procedure were subject to pre-approval and that was often a battle but not pre-existing.

Insurance Definition:

Health insurance is insurance that covers the whole or a part of the risk of a person incurring medical expenses, spreading the risk over a large number of persons.

I don't see "FUTURE catastrophes" listed as a reason for the insurance...

Get over Obamacare! It was a start for good or bad has provided coverage for more people than anything congress has done. Let them do their jobs and develop an more viable program that includes holding the insurance companies accountable to their obligations something that is often missing.

Seeing you abhor the "nanny-state mindset" I think we should retract the tax exemption for all faiths with the exception of the house of worship and those programs that are run as pure charities such as food banks/shelters as for the rest of the assets tax them!

Wouldn't want them to think the government is a "sugar daddy", I know its a "mindset a much tougher job".
Samaritan Ministries co-op is a non profit like the other 'pure charities' you mentioned. If you take away Samaritan's tax exemption, you would have to take them away for all charities.

If you have a biological child with issues, those issues are covered. You've had insurance for 40 years that covered pre-existing conditions? I'm calling BS.
 
Old 02-03-2019, 07:27 AM
 
Location: New Yawk
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Ah yes.

And as before, when the Christian cost-share programs won't cover large medical bills, the rest of us will, either through higher insurance premiums, Medicaid, or medical bankruptcy, driving up costs for the rest of us.

One wonders how many would still stick with their Christian cost-share plans if they knew that that the back-up options were not available to them.
At my husband’s old church, there were a couple of families who were part of the cost-sharing program. As much as they carped about “socialized medicine”, they had no qualms with relying on PCAP and Medicaid as back-up to cover their pregnancies and well-visits, applying for WIC, and relying on the county health department for free immunizations for their broods of children. Basically, they were totally fine with relying on the government for any costs that were not shared by Samaritan.
 
Old 02-03-2019, 07:27 AM
 
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These Christians aren't allowed to participate in the Christian cost-share plans.

They must scramble among the heathens to find health insurance.
Welfare is what you mean. Samaritan isn't welfare, although their members can and do pay for conditions that are not eligible for Samaritan coverage. In truth all welfare should be handled by private charity.
 
Old 02-03-2019, 07:30 AM
 
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So how does a child who gets cancer get treatment if his or her family can't afford it? Or is it God's will that the poor just drop dead?
Maybe you can step up and make a private donation, like you are demanding Christians do. Amazing how these atheist leftwingers exempt themselves from all duty or responsibility while taking shots at others.
 
Old 02-03-2019, 07:30 AM
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Samaritan Ministries co-op is a non profit like the other 'pure charities' you mentioned. If you take away Samaritan's tax exemption, you would have to take them away for all charities.

If you have a biological child with issues, those issues are covered. You've had insurance for 40 years that covered pre-existing conditions? I'm calling BS.
Asthma, Diabetes, Psoriasis all pre-existing for some, call BS if you like but treatment were covered for them.

A pure charity is one that provides assistance in whatever form with no criteria that must be met your co-op is anything but that. I have never seen a shelter or food bank ask for proof of faith and conduct before assisting someone..
 
Old 02-03-2019, 07:31 AM
 
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Samaritan Ministries co-op is a non profit like the other 'pure charities' you mentioned. If you take away Samaritan's tax exemption, you would have to take them away for all charities.

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BS. There are all sorts of charities that qualify for tax exempt status.

However, I'm beginning to question whether Samaritan Ministries cost-share deal is even a charity. The more I read about it, the more it looks like a way for Christians to dump their sickest members off on the rest of us. No charity involved.
 
Old 02-03-2019, 07:33 AM
 
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Given that the point of the parable of the Good Samaritan involves taking care of those who are not "one of us," it seems strange that this group call itself Samaritans.
 
Old 02-03-2019, 07:33 AM
 
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BS. There are all sorts of charities that qualify for tax exempt status.

However, I'm beginning to question whether Samaritan Ministries is even a charity. The more I read about it, the more it looks like a way for Christians to off load their sickest members off on the rest of us. No charity involved.
Who's making a profit at Samaritan? Nobody. Unlike with the socialist architects of 0bamacare.
 
Old 02-03-2019, 07:35 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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Maybe you can step up and make a private donation, like you are demanding Christians do. Amazing how these atheist leftwingers exempt themselves from all duty or responsibility while taking shots at others.
I didn't demand anything. You keep saying how generous the members of your co-op are. Only to those you deem worthy, however. Not children adopted from Africa or those who have the misfortune to be diagnosed with cancer as infants.
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