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Old 02-03-2019, 05:45 AM
 
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How do you know he was a good Christian man? How do you know he wasn't an alkie? Lots of unanswered questions.
Accusations like that are exactly how they get out of paying high cost medical bills.

In reality, the man had told his doctor about a kidney problem years before but it had not been diagnosed.

So they used the pre-existing excuse to get out of paying.

 
Old 02-03-2019, 05:46 AM
 
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Why didn't they pay the medical bills of the couple who adopted the children from Africa? And what was their pre-existing condition? Being born in a place without reliable medical care? Very Christian of your company to deny coverage to these little children. I'm sure Jesus would approve.
You tell me what their pre-existing conditions were. It's your story.
 
Old 02-03-2019, 05:47 AM
 
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Accusations like that are exactly how they get out of paying high cost medical bills.
Nope. For the 15th time, they don't pay for pre-existing conditions.
 
Old 02-03-2019, 05:53 AM
 
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You tell me what their pre-conditions were. It's your story.
Did you read the article? When the couple brought the child back from Africa, the American pediatrician recommended extensive bloodwork as there were scant medical records available from the child's home country. Because there were no known medical issues at that time, the only "pre-existing condition" Samaritan could claim was that the child was adopted.

Why didn't the other Christians in the co-op step up and help out their brethren who were in need? I thought they were all such generous people?
 
Old 02-03-2019, 05:57 AM
 
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Why didn't they pay the medical bills of the couple who adopted the children from Africa? And what was their pre-existing condition? Being born in a place without reliable medical care? Very Christian of your company to deny coverage to these little children. I'm sure Jesus would approve.
Samaritan cannot remain viable if they pay pre-conditions. It is not a welfare agency. That being said, Samaritan has a portal in which people can send money to individuals with needs that aren't covered. We often give extra for just this cause. Many members do. So quite often these non-qualifying needs are met. Can you imagine such a thing happening with the government running it?
 
Old 02-03-2019, 05:57 AM
 
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Nope. For the 15th time, they don't pay for pre-existing conditions.
Let me see if I can explain this to you in a way you can comprehend.

Many pre-existing conditions can be undetected for years, and nearly any high-cost medical condition can be determined to be pre-existing.

This is how they get out of paying for high cost medical conditions.

Nonetheless, these medical conditions still exist and people still seek treatment.

So who pays?

Not the Christian cost-share folks who will determine that you had that heart condition, kidney condition, cancer, etc. all along and it only recently manifested itself. They have to. If they didn't, they'd run out of money.

So people who develop high cost medical conditions either buy real insurance, driving up the costs for everyone else, or get on Medicaid, which taxpayers foot the bill for.
 
Old 02-03-2019, 05:59 AM
 
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Did you read the article? When the couple brought the child back from Africa, the American pediatrician recommended extensive bloodwork as there were scant medical records available from the child's home country. Because there were no known medical issues at that time, the only "pre-existing condition" Samaritan could claim was that the child was adopted.
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Why didn't the other Christians in the co-op step up and help out their brethren who were in need? I thought they were all such generous people?
Samaritan doesn't pay for tests, unless they are associated with an ailment that was not pre-existing. It's pretty simple.

Was this story advertised in Samaritan? I don't remember it. Is it even real? Is this story real?
 
Old 02-03-2019, 06:00 AM
 
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Accusations like that are exactly how they get out of paying high cost medical bills.

In reality, the man had told his doctor about a kidney problem years before but it had not been diagnosed.

So they used the pre-existing excuse to get out of paying.
Yeah, alcoholism is a terrible thing. There is a reason Samaritan's bylaws prohibit alcohol abuse.
 
Old 02-03-2019, 06:04 AM
 
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Yeah, alcoholism is a terrible thing. There is a reason Samaritan's bylaws prohibit alcohol abuse.
Alcoholism is a terrible thing. But there is no indication the man was an alcoholic.

In any case, the Christian cost-share plan took his money right along. Then when he needed treatment Utah hospitals refused to schedule him for a transplant because he didn't have insurance.

His Christian cost share plan refused to pay for his transplant.

Unlike you, they did not accuse him of being an alcoholic. Perhaps they were better Christians than to accuse him of something out of the clear blue. They said it was a pre-existing condition that had not been previously detected.
 
Old 02-03-2019, 06:07 AM
 
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The more I read the inane comments on here, the more I have reached the conclusion that what you people really want is welfare. Not insurance. Are all of you too young to remember 12 years ago and before where covering pre-existing conditions would have been seen as ludicrous for insurance companies to even consider? Do you people even know what insurance is? It's protection against FUTURE catastrophes. It's not a sugar daddy for all past bills to be paid.

Socialist 0bamacare bastardized the term and the process. It won't be enough to repeal this despised law. We will have to also repeal the nanny-state mindset. A much tougher job.
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