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Old 02-20-2019, 06:10 AM
 
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It's been covered over and over and over and over.

He was going to enact a small fee on trades. So many would be financing their kids college that way. Once a person graduates the vast majority get into setting up for their futures also, so while they aren't paying while in college they would when they get out.

No different than with a loan. The banks simply can't hose you with inflated rates this way.
By fee on trades, I assume you mean stocks.

So he was going to bring down the value of the stock market, hurting the portfolios of millions and millions of middle-income Americans' retirement funds.

I don't have children, yet I cover free education k-12, free lunches for those in need, child tax credits, and Medicaid for children whose parents can't afford to provide for. That's enough. I shouldn't have to pay for every kid to get a free education too, and lower the value of a degree in the process.

There are plenty of ways to get a college education. Start at community college. Get academic scholarships. Work part-time, live at home, and take six years instead of four. Get a job with a university that offers free classes to employees. The answer to getting what you want isn't always: have someone else fund it.
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Old 02-20-2019, 06:11 AM
 
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America haters want our future generations to be dumb as rocks as our adversary nations advance.
And having marginal students go on to college will help that? All it will do is dumb down the level of college.

The C students need to go to a six-month vocational training program.
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Old 02-20-2019, 06:15 AM
 
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Nope. It's not my job to pay for your kid's day care. If you can't afford a child, don't have one.
Its taken 6 pages to meet the first "My kcid, My kid" posters .

To note, the only bill which was passed without any opposition and in a bipartisan way was teh 1.5 tn tax cut. Everything else is a stalemate.
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Old 02-20-2019, 06:16 AM
 
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And having marginal students go on to college will help that? All it will do is dumb down the level of college.

The C students need to go to a six-month vocational training program.
These days they’d be better off doing that anyway.
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Old 02-20-2019, 06:16 AM
 
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Last time around Donald Trump promised us a free wall. Several idiots bit.
Irony.
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Old 02-20-2019, 06:17 AM
 
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Just an example of the cost of daycare today. I have 3 kids. Both Mom and Dad work. We were fortunately able to keep Mom home for the first year of each child's life. Costs for each kid were 1200 per month for 48 months. 172,800 bucks to put 3 kids in daycare.

Like college educations, the cost of child care has exploded. It is crippling many families. I don't think this is the solution but it is a problem that society should address.

Also- many parents already get "vouchers" for childcare costs. I'm not sure how this would change that.
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Old 02-20-2019, 06:28 AM
 
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By fee on trades, I assume you mean stocks.

So he was going to bring down the value of the stock market,
I'm not willing to jump off your cliffs. Just say "OK I was wrong".
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Old 02-20-2019, 06:29 AM
 
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And having marginal students go on to college will help that? All it will do is dumb down the level of college.

The C students need to go to a six-month vocational training program.
Just because someone doesn't have parents that are middle class at least does not mean they are marginal students.
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Old 02-20-2019, 06:30 AM
 
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These days they’d be better off doing that anyway.
Those still cost money to attend.
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Old 02-20-2019, 06:39 AM
 
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Just because someone doesn't have parents that are middle class at least does not mean they are marginal students.
Where did I say that? But marginal students, regardless of class, should not expect taxpayers to send them through college. It ruins college for the B and above students. Let the marginals go to vocational training.
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