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Old 05-01-2019, 10:28 PM
 
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Again, Mueller didn’t mention the media in his letter. He took issue with Barr’s selective summary that quotes taken out of context to make it appear to say something it did not. People need to stop pretending that the letter isn’t there for all of us to read. Telling us it says one thing when it plainly says another won’t convince anyone who read the letter it says something other than what it actually says. It just ruins your credibility.

Please, Mueller had a chance to review Barr’s summary of Mueller’s own words and conclusion and he REFUSED!......so why MUELLER or his staff complaining to Barr? Barr released the full 400 page report.

Barr talked to Mueller on the phone over his memo and the issue was that Mueller wanted more on his summary and Barr told him he will make public the full 400 page report. Again, that is not Mueller’s call. Barr didn’t have to release any of it to the public.

Mueller did mention the media to Barr when they spoke......MUELLER can now come to Congress under oath and answer many questions and who leaked that memo and why?.....my bet he won’t go.
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Old 05-01-2019, 10:30 PM
 
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Barr was so confiden tin today's appearance he decided that tomorrow -- meh -- NO don't make me I can't.

Spin it Do it ---
Today did nothing for Trump or Barr...except for the devoted.
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Old 05-01-2019, 10:32 PM
 
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mueller and his team messed up and now you want to blame Barr? LMAO!

Mueller and his staff didn’t like the media coverage so they went crying to Barr and Barr released the whole 400 page report and Democrats still crying foul.
I know there's articles on this "media coverage" narrative from Mueller and Barr's phone call, which is different info from Mueller's letter to Barr, but that narrative was provided to the media by a justice dept official. When Blumenthal asked Barr if anyone memorialized the phone call, Barr said yes. Barr said multiple people were in the room. Blumenthal asked Barr if they could have those notes. Barr said no. Why not?
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Old 05-01-2019, 10:33 PM
 
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Please, Mueller had a chance to review Barr’s summary of Mueller’s own words and conclusion and he REFUSED!......so why MUELLER or his staff complaining to Barr? Barr released the full 400 page report.

Barr talked to Mueller on the phone over his memo and the issue was that Mueller wanted more on his summary and Barr told him he will make public the full 400 page report. Again, that is not Mueller’s call. Barr didn’t have to release any of it to the public.

Mueller did mention the media to Barr when they spoke......MUELLER can now come to Congress under oath and answer many questions and who leaked that memo and why?.....my bet he won’t go.
Yes, Barr released the whole report. And it’s release confirmed exactly what Mueller has been concerned about - the contents of the report painted a wildly different picture of the President than Barr’s out-of-context summary, which now appears to have been nothing more than a transparent attempt to create a public narrative in favor of the President by relying on half-truthes. So now we know that not only was Mueller concerned that Barr was creating a false narrative about the report, we also know that his concerns were well-founded.
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Old 05-01-2019, 10:33 PM
 
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Barr was so confiden tin today's appearance he decided that tomorrow -- meh -- NO don't make me I can't.

Spin it Do it ---
Today did nothing for Trump or Barr...except for the devoted.
The house is a joke. This is all politics.
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Old 05-01-2019, 10:43 PM
 
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Barr needs to be careful and keep an eye over his shoulder. Dems know whats coming, and all their blabbering and accusations are a symptom. Hate to think what could happen.
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Old 05-01-2019, 10:44 PM
 
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Yes, Barr released the whole report. And it’s release confirmed exactly what Mueller has been concerned about - the contents of the report painted a wildly different picture of the President than Barr’s out-of-context summary. So now we know that not only was Mueller concerned that Barr was creating a false narrative about the report, we also know that his concerns were well-founded.
Tell me exactly what did BARR lied about over the summary? No collusion or conspiracy with Russia and on obstruction MUELLER played both sides and at the end didn’t find that Trump committed a crime or he couldn’t exonerate the President........WHAT did he lied about?

Barr asked Mueller to review his summary for input and he refused. So why did he come crying 5 days later when the summary went public?

Once Mueller turned his report to BARR, Mueller has no say or power how the report would come out. Barr released a summary which was all true and then 3 weeks later released the full 400 pages report. Barr did that when he didn’t have to released the reports at all......so again, why is mueller leaking memo and getting political?

One more time, Mueller refused to give any input to Barr’s summary before it went public......He can’t come later and complain that he wanted more in the summary.....that’s B.S. and you know it.
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Old 05-01-2019, 10:50 PM
 
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I know there's articles on this "media coverage" narrative from Mueller and Barr's phone call, which is different info from Mueller's letter to Barr, but that narrative was provided to the media by a justice dept official. When Blumenthal asked Barr if anyone memorialized the phone call, Barr said yes. Barr said multiple people were in the room. Blumenthal asked Barr if they could have those notes. Barr said no. Why not?
This 100%. I would be willing to bet a pretty penny that those notes will show that Mueller was concerned that Barr’s incomplete, out-of-context summary creating an inaccurate narrative in the public sphere (including the media) rather than complaining about “media coverage.” There is a big difference between “complaining about media coverage” and “expressing concern that Barr’s summary was misleading the media and the general public.” The letter addresses the latter. I see no reason why the phone call would be different or why a career-long professional like Mueller would be calling Barr to whine about “media coverage.” Use your heads,people.
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Old 05-01-2019, 10:53 PM
 
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Tell me exactly what did BARR lied about over the summary? No collusion or conspiracy with Russia and on obstruction MUELLER played both sides and at the end didn’t find that Trump committed a crime or he couldn’t exonerate the President........WHAT did he lied about?

Barr asked Mueller to review his summary for input and he refused. So why did he come crying 5 days later when the summary went public?

Once Mueller turned his report to BARR, Mueller has no say or power how the report would come out. Barr released a summary which was all true and then 3 weeks later released the full 400 pages report. Barr did that when he didn’t have to released the reports at all......so again, why is mueller leaking memo and getting political?

One more time, Mueller refused to give any input to Barr’s summary before it went public......He can’t come later and complain that he wanted more in the summary.....that’s B.S. and you know it.
Mueller gave Barr a summary he could release. Mueller isn’t stupid and apparently wasn’t willing to start rubber stamping something other than his carefully-crafted summaries that (we now know) had no redactable information whatsoever. The question isn’t why Mueller wouldn’t reinvent the wheel he already invented. It is why Barr took it upon himself to needlessly reinvent Mueller’s wheel, if not to intentionally mislead the public.

Barr’s decision to do so is even more questionable after today’s admission that he didn’t even read the report before substituting Mueller’s summaries with his own out-of-context spin on it.
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Old 05-01-2019, 10:58 PM
 
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This 100%. I would be willing to bet a pretty penny that those notes will show that Mueller was concerned that Barr’s incomplete, out-of-context summary creating an inaccurate narrative in the public sphere (including the media) rather than complaining about “media coverage.” There is a big difference between “complaining about media coverage” and “expressing concern that Barr’s summary was misleading the media and the general public.” The letter addresses the latter. I see no reason why the phone call would be different or why a career-long professional like Mueller would be calling Barr to whine about “media coverage.” Use your heads,people.

A summary of the conclusion of the report is not supposed to show the whole report. The verdict of a trial and the transcript of the trial are 2 different things.

Barr’s summary is accurate. No RUSSIAN COLLUSION or CONSPIRACY!!! And ON OBSTRUCTION he concluded he didn’t find the President committed a crime and he couldn’t exonerate him and punted the decision to his bosses in the DOJ.

How do you know what Barr and Mueller spoke on the phone? They know each other for 30 years. Use our heads? LOL. Use your common sense.
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