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Old 09-26-2019, 05:22 PM
 
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Uh, there is a tape of Joe Biden threatening to withhold funds if the prosecutor is not removed, which is exactly the type of quid pro quo that they are accusing Trump of, whether his son did anything wrong or not.

And, uh, the Ukrainian President said that Trump did nothing wrong.

So you can believe all the nonsense you want, and in the end, Trump will keep his presidency, and Biden is finished.
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Old 09-26-2019, 05:28 PM
 
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Uh, there is a tape of Joe Biden threatening to withhold funds if the prosecutor is not removed
What tape?
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Old 09-26-2019, 05:30 PM
 
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Uh, there is a tape of Joe Biden threatening to withhold funds if the prosecutor is not removed, which is exactly the type of quid pro quo that they are accusing Trump of, whether his son did anything wrong or not.

And, uh, the Ukrainian President said that Trump did nothing wrong.

So you can believe all the nonsense you want, and in the end, Trump will keep his presidency, and Biden is finished.
If that were the case the Ukrainian prosecutor would have found wrongdoing. He did not. This Hunter Biden hoax is based on deceiving those that fail to understand that Biden's comments had nothing to do with his son, but US policy. Trumpers need confusion to distract from Trump's crimes.
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Old 09-26-2019, 05:34 PM
 
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WATCH: Devin Nunes Sarcastically Compliments Democrats on Witch Hunts During Whistleblower Hearing


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yZwaHKuhPuY
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Old 09-26-2019, 05:38 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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WATCH: Devin Nunes Sarcastically Compliments Democrats on Witch Hunts During Whistleblower Hearing


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yZwaHKuhPuY
That's funny, Nunes complaining about witch hunts, how are his 7 articles for criminal referral going that he sent to the FBI. He should be more concerned about his cow bad mouthing him.
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Old 09-26-2019, 05:52 PM
 
Location: Clyde Hill, WA
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All appearances suggest that Joe Biden was using his son Hunter as a cut-out in order to work quid pro quo deals with both Ukraine and China when Joe was VP and had his fingers upon the levers of US power.

It was a very clever scheme, really. Reliance upon family members who can be counted upon not to be flipped by a prosecutor is something that has been used often in organized crime. Biden brought this tried and true tactic to the government.

Biden has been a public servant since before age 30, drawing a gov't paycheck. Yet he lives in a multi-million dollar lake front home, and his family net worth is probably in 10 figures. He doesn't even have any blockbuster book contracts to his credit, as with Bernie and Hillary. If we had such info about a Mexican president we would assume corruption was involved, but somehow here we want to wriggle out of that assumption.
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Old 09-26-2019, 05:57 PM
 
Location: Clyde Hill, WA
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Everything about Hunter Biden and his father is out there to see, what exactly do you think is hidden. You don't just start an investigation because you don't like someone, you need to have a reason and facts, right now there is none. The fact that Burisma overpaid Hunter because he is Biden's son isn't a crime although I don't like it either. Hunter Biden has been employed since 2014 and is a private citizen, you might want to ask why this is just being questioned by Trump at this time.


Giuliani is the wrong person to be heading an investigation into a foreign country since he works as Trump's personnel counsel and represents the US, shouldn't the FBI be the responsible party. Giuliani has made millions from his private security firm, he just made a trip to Bahrain and other countries this year to promote his business while he worked for Trump. His income was $9.5 Million in 2018 and $5 Million in 2018, all public info because of his divorce, do you see a little hypocrisy and a conflict with him doing an investigation.


This is just absolutely wrong for a president to be taking this type of action and he deserves to be held accountable.
It is actually not 'out there to see.' Hunter did all of his deals via private equity, which means no SEC filings. And all of his big deals were overseas, where getting transparency for the US voter/taxpayer is often problematic.

Maybe it's just a coincidence that the Biden's chose these particular tactics. Let's open up all the books and find out. Either that, or let's stop yowling about Donald Trump's tax returns.
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Old 09-26-2019, 06:01 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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All appearances suggest that Joe Biden was using his son Hunter as a cut-out in order to work quid pro quo deals with both Ukraine and China when Joe was VP and had his fingers upon the levers of US power.

It was a very clever scheme, really. Reliance upon family members who can be counted upon not to be flipped by a prosecutor is something that has been used often in organized crime. Biden brought this tried and true tactic to the government.

Biden has been a public servant since before age 30, drawing a gov't paycheck. Yet he lives in a multi-million dollar lake front home, and his family net worth is probably in 10 figures. He doesn't even have any blockbuster book contracts to his credit, as with Bernie and Hillary. If we had such info about a Mexican president we would assume corruption was involved, but somehow here we want to wriggle out of that assumption.
If you know of a senator that isn't a millionaire point him out to me.
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Old 09-26-2019, 06:01 PM
 
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All appearances suggest that Joe Biden was using his son Hunter as a cut-out in order to work quid pro quo deals with both Ukraine and China when Joe was VP and had his fingers upon the levers of US power.

It was a very clever scheme, really. Reliance upon family members who can be counted upon not to be flipped by a prosecutor is something that has been used often in organized crime. Biden brought this tried and true tactic to the government.

Biden has been a public servant since before age 30, drawing a gov't paycheck. Yet he lives in a multi-million dollar lake front home, and his family net worth is probably in 10 figures. He doesn't even have any blockbuster book contracts to his credit, as with Bernie and Hillary. If we had such info about a Mexican president we would assume corruption was involved, but somehow here we want to wriggle out of that assumption.

Yeah, he's rich as hell. He's a perfectly useless neoliberal. So?

What are you implying?

You're misinformed.

Fox explains how he's made all this money:

https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics...iden-net-worth
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Old 09-26-2019, 06:37 PM
 
Location: Clyde Hill, WA
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Nice deflection.

Yeah, he's rich as hell. He's a perfectly useless neoliberal. So?

What are you implying?

You're misinformed. Fox explains how he's made all this money:

https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics...iden-net-worth
Thank you for the link, but it has zero about Hunter Biden, which was the focus of my post which you quoted. Let's open up the books on Hunter, or if not at least quit yowling about Trump's tax returns and remuneration from taxpayer money going to his hotels and so forth.

You are under-informed. See Peter Schweizer's book Secret Empires where he covers various DC clans including the Bidens, McConnells, Clintons, and Trumps.
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