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Old 05-27-2019, 03:55 AM
 
Location: Eugene, Oregon
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No, the Media will not tolerate that for MLK, no matter what he did. No statues coming down, no street names changed, no building names changed. Nothing will happen. There is a huge double standard and bias in this country.

If everyone in this country was judged by the same standard as Trump, no one would ever be held accountable for anything. Do you suppose anything public will ever be named after him? What governmental agency would ever show such poor taste and judgement and be willing to suffer constant criticism for it?
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Old 05-27-2019, 05:27 AM
 
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seems like the wokescolds would demand it, for the sake of consistency.



https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...rishioner.html
The left wing media will ignore this and the predatory actions of King.

It is peculiar indeed how the American Taliban is very selective in which history they want to forget. Just as Stalin before them, revising history has been a standard tool.

Looks like pretty vicious stuff.
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Old 05-27-2019, 05:37 AM
 
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Speaking of the biographer, something does not add up. I found an article from 2018, note:

Here’s What The FBI Had On Martin Luther King Jr.

"In all that time, the bureau—and Director J. Edgar Hoover specifically—never uncovered Communist Party ties or any nefarious behavior that warranted the years of wiretaps and eavesdropping. Instead, they discovered a man devoted to serving others, unafraid of self-examination and unconcerned with fame or notoriety, said David Garrow, a historian and Pulitzer Prize-winning author, in a 2008 CNN interview.
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The last two pages of the report are dedicated to salacious allegations. It describes a two-day workshop King held in Miami in February 1968. One of the attendees, according to the report, apparently informed the FBI of “behind-the-scene drinking, fornication, and homosexuality that went on at the conference,” in addition to prostitution, and “an all-night sex orgy was held with these prostitutes.” But there’s no mention that King was involved."
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From the Daily Mail - 2019

The MLK tapes: Secret FBI recordings accuse Martin Luther King Jr ...

"The civil rights hero was also heard allegedly joking he was the founder of the 'International Association for the Advancement of P***y-Eaters' on an agency recording that was obtained by bugging his room, according to the sensational claims made by biographer David Garrow - a Pulitzer prize-winning author and biographer of MLK. "
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what a difference one year makes ...

This has been known for years. In the J. Edgar Hoover biography from 20 years ago they go into great detail about the sexual escapades of MLK documented during the FBI surveillance.

Hoover incorrectly thought that MLK had ties to communism, thus the intensive surveillance. Even Corretta Scott King was well aware of MLK's sexual escapades. In the Hoover biography, the weird thing was that most of his affairs were with parishioners, which is even worse.

This should be a lesson to the left. MOST of our historical icons had very flawed personal lives. One should understand this issue and not expect past and future politicians to be saints. They rose to power by being aggressive and dirty, so one should expect a lot of "skeletons in the closet". The big difference between the past and now is that they media chose to not cover the private lives of many political figures in the past.

Do you think this will temper the zeal for the left tearing down historical markers now? Of course not.

A few of our great heroes were not perverts- Teddy Roosevelt, Lincoln, Washington, Truman, and Reagan to name a few. However, powerful men have a history of using that power over women for sex. It seems like political power and sexual perversion go hand in hand.
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Old 05-27-2019, 06:42 AM
 
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If he committed treason, how come he was not charged with that crime by his contempories.
Lincoln thought that a hard peace would not heal the wounds of the war, but prevent us from becoming one country again. He was likely correct. Had Lee been hanged white southerners may have formed guerrilla groups.
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Old 05-27-2019, 06:44 AM
 
Location: deafened by howls of 'racism!!!'
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Originally Posted by Ellis Bell View Post
Speaking of the biographer, something does not add up. I found an article from 2018, note:

Here’s What The FBI Had On Martin Luther King Jr.

"In all that time, the bureau—and Director J. Edgar Hoover specifically—never uncovered Communist Party ties or any nefarious behavior that warranted the years of wiretaps and eavesdropping. Instead, they discovered a man devoted to serving others, unafraid of self-examination and unconcerned with fame or notoriety, said David Garrow, a historian and Pulitzer Prize-winning author, in a 2008 CNN interview.
<snip>
The last two pages of the report are dedicated to salacious allegations. It describes a two-day workshop King held in Miami in February 1968. One of the attendees, according to the report, apparently informed the FBI of “behind-the-scene drinking, fornication, and homosexuality that went on at the conference,†in addition to prostitution, and “an all-night sex orgy was held with these prostitutes.†But there’s no mention that King was involved."
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From the Daily Mail - 2019

The MLK tapes: Secret FBI recordings accuse Martin Luther King Jr ...

"The civil rights hero was also heard allegedly joking he was the founder of the 'International Association for the Advancement of P***y-Eaters' on an agency recording that was obtained by bugging his room, according to the sensational claims made by biographer David Garrow - a Pulitzer prize-winning author and biographer of MLK. "
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what a difference one year makes ...
one year?
2019-2008= 11 years.
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Old 05-27-2019, 06:51 AM
 
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The main point of contention is the blatant hypocrisy present here. Had a conservative straight white male done anything of this nature, the media would be all over it, the rabid SJWs would be tearing down monuments, and crying for bans and renaming stuff. It is blatant hypocrisy because the authoritarian left and social justice warriors are blatant hypocrites.
This is the main point that a lot of people are purposefully dodging, because it is true and strikes home at their hypocrisy that they refuse to see in themselves.

MLK was sexist - even for his time period and likely worse.
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Old 05-27-2019, 07:03 AM
 
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Oh, the fun we could have if there were years of FBI tapes on all our movement leaders and politicians.

When asked could he prove there were FBI tapes of Trump Tower, the POTUS said no, he just had a hunch they were spying on him..

So now the FBI is being investigated due to a hunch. Karma's a *****.
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Old 05-27-2019, 07:50 AM
 
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So if these things are true -

What surprised me the most is that he was supposed to be a preacher, and not just a fake preacher, but i got the impression he was a holy man, a very religious person.

So was he or was he not another fake?
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Old 05-27-2019, 07:53 AM
 
Location: Bronx
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The left wing media will ignore this and the predatory actions of King.

It is peculiar indeed how the American Taliban is very selective in which history they want to forget. Just as Stalin before them, revising history has been a standard tool.

Looks like pretty vicious stuff.
MLK is honored greatly by both White Liberals and White Conservatives. White Conservatives love the aspect of MLK and him being a pastor and devout Christian, plus he is a conservative by nature. Left media will try hard to ignore his actions especially in mainstream media. However you have SJW media like Vox, Vice, Buzzfeed and HuffPost. These forms of Social Justice media have black feminist that work, write and edit for such news organizations. Social Justice media will try to tear down MLK when the time comes. Like I said before, it is up to the black feminist, and black academics to decide MLK fate due to his actions against the black woman and his wife.
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Old 05-27-2019, 08:04 AM
 
Location: Bronx
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If he committed treason, how come he was not charged with that crime by his contempories.
According to Lincoln. A house divided can not stand. That's what he said. Lincoln wanted to unite the country to the best of his abilities and did not want to kill or execute Southern Generals. Southern soldiers unconditionally surrounded and were able to keep their arms. Civil Wars at times, it is best not to kill your rivals after peace is achieved. During the Roman Republic Civil Wars between Caesar and Pompey, Caesar wanted to capture Pompey and have some sort of peace between the two men. Pompey fled Greece across the Mediterranean to Greek ruled Egypt where the Ptolemaic child King had Pompey beheaded. Caesar was horrified that his friend but also enemy was beheaded. All Caesar wanted to do was to make peace and have Pompey back as Co Consul.
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