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Perhaps if you truly believe you are killing a child. Those who would seek abortion realize they are terminating an embryo, fetus, potential child. Im going to assume you have never been pregnant, had a miscarriage or given birth.
As far as cultural push for killing babies you do realize abortion has been going on since recorded history. Not only abortion, infanticide, child abandonment, baby farming, child labor, sex trafficking. So no, morality is not rewritten, people are more moral if anything.
Define "potential child." Can it also be a carrot? A tulip? A mound of dirt? A donkey? Potential is open-ended. "Potential" means it can be, well, anything.
The correct term is: "child WITH potential." It is a child that has the potential to grow up. If someone doesn't kill him or her.
It is not a 'potential child.'
Are you for the bolded? Champion them as things everyone should be encouraged to do? Think we need some nonprofit organizations to uphold and celebrate these historical behaviors?
Define "potential child." Can it also be a carrot? A tulip? A mound of dirt? A donkey? Potential is open-ended. "Potential" means it can be, well, anything.
The correct term is: "child WITH potential." It is a child that has the potential to grow up. If someone doesn't kill him or her.
It is not a 'potential child.'
Are you for the bolded? Champion them as things everyone should be encouraged to do? Think we need some nonprofit organizations to uphold and celebrate these historical behaviors?
No, that’s not what potential means at all. An acorn has the potential to become an oak tree. An egg has the potential to become a chicken. A human zygote has the potential to become a human being.
An acorn has no potential to become a chicken no matter how hard it tries. A human zygote has no potential to develop into anything but a human being.
potential
adjective [ADJ n]
You use potential to say that someone or something is capable of developing into the particular kind of person or thing mentioned.
After birth children have the potential to become many thing as it pertains to career or talents or lifestyle, but prior to birth their potential is limited to becoming a child.
But many people who want abortion banned would be strongly opposed to that because it would mean the mother is getting away with child abandonment charges.
But many people who want abortion banned would be strongly opposed to that because it would mean the mother is getting away with child abandonment charges.
No, it's about saving the children. Many cities and states have safe drop off points for unwanted newborns, everyone is trying to save the babies so they won't be left in trashcans and public restrooms.
You missed the point or your working to erode it.
That may be however, sexual intercourse among teens is down by 2/3 and the number of abortions have declined, as well. In other words the majority of teens in the u.s are electing to abstain from having sex. That can not be said any plainer than that.
Fewer means less burden. Not to mention the taxes will be taken out of our paychecks, not matter what --- you know that right?
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Come on. Its a self survey based on the following questions. You really need to be careful how much weight you give these kind of statistics. I dont believe for a minute teen sex is down by 2/3.
The next 9 questions ask about sexual behavior.
So what in your opinion is so messed up about the questionnaire that would cause the stats to be skewed?
Our adoption system is a mess. Do some research if you want to know why we haven't managed to normalize adoption. My thoughts. Crooked system for one. If not outright criminal at times, just a failed system overall. Its difficult and often takes a long time to adopt. Why do you think so many people go overseas to adopt. Few people want to adopt older kids, non-white kids, kids with medical (mental or physical conditions), drug addicted kids, etc. Children average a 3 year wait to be adopted. There are over 100,000 kids available and waiting for adoptive right now.
Yes, it can take a long time to adopt. But most of the time the children are with the new parents as it winds through the court system. It IS frustrating. Attorneys and judges slow down the process. That said, I have many friends who also adopted newborns, not through agencies, and were able to take the babies home from the hospital.
In the places I've lived, adoption is normalized and common. This includes older non-white kids and children with special needs.
As far as the type of time limits being put on when a woman can have an abortion like in Georgia.
Suppose a girl or woman is drugged and then raped? These girls and women may not know they were raped and along with this they may not realize they are pregnant until after this Georgia bill's time limit. So isn't this why there shouldn't be such an early restriction on when an abortion can happen?
I'm trying to see the downside of a world where abortion is once again illegal.
There were abortions when abortion was illegal and there will still be abortions if it becomes illegal again. The downside is that it will be less safe.
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If your argument is, "Letting go and putting your child up for adoption is hard ... SO KILL THE LITTLE BASTARD!!!" then it's not a very good argument. You're saying, "I loved you too much not to kill you." That's the kind sick and twisted thing we'd expect to hear from a serial rapist killer. You've always had unwanted pregnancies. That isn't anything new. The only thing that changed is that we now have a massive cultural push for killing the babies.
We live in a culture where morals have quite literally been rewritten at an alarming rate. It's not that hard to push for a cultural norm where putting a child up for adoption carries few if any negative stigmas. Personally, I think it's one of the bravest, noblest things you can do. We've managed to normalize the mass-slaughter of unborn babies, so why do you think it's hard to normalize adoption?
Fewer abortions are being done in the US, with the rate declining yearly.
Things will likely go back to the way things were prior to Roe v Wade -- at least in states that make abortion illegal. Many women dropped their unwanted babies off at Catholic Convents, other churches and at hospitals and went on about their lives.
Presently in the USA, there are 2 million couples waiting in line to adopt at the insane average going rate of $30,000 a pop. That tally of 2 million couples doesn't count a huge chunk of people who want to adopt, but can't afford it, so they never try. For every baby that is put up for adoption, there are 36 couples ready and waiting to pay full price to adopt that baby. Meanwhile, there were 638,169 abortions reported to the CDC in the most recent year I can find numbers for, which is 2015. The largest number of abortions ever reported in a single year ever was 1,429,247 in 1990. So even assuming the lowest conceivable numbers of couples waiting to adopt a baby and maximum number of abortions per year, there are far more couples waiting to adopt than there are girls aborting their unborn babies. Do some significant deregulating and stop gouging adoptive parents and things work out just fine.
One consequence might be that women and girls maybe stop and think before screwing some guy who has yet to truly commit himself to her for life. Hook-up culture isn't physiologically healthy anyways. Cheapening sex and cheapening human life haven't led us to good outcomes.
I'm trying to see the downside of a world where abortion is once again illegal.
Then why are there still children waiting to be adopted? Why are there children aging out of the system every year without being adopted even though they are available for adoption? Using the state foster and adoption system doesn't cost $30,000 either, you are talking about private adoptions.
Taxes will go up. Almost 50% of births are paid for by medicaid. Now add all of those who had abortions because they couldn't afford a child to the rolls.
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