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Old 06-01-2019, 07:37 PM
 
Location: Northridge/Porter Ranch, Calif.
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Actually science is increasingly on the mayor's side here. There is an emerging field of science called "climate attribution" that uses rigorous analysis to determine to what extent, if any, is extreme weather caused or worsened by climate change. Climate Attribution


Meanwhile, in Japan, record high temperatures are shattering records... 103 F in Tokyo in May is not normal.
Two Die, 600 Taken to Hospital for Heat Stroke in Japan

We are in the early stages of a climate crisis. Is that climate alarmism? No, not all. The rapidly increasing extreme weather events worldwide speak for themselves.
What day did it reach 103 degrees at Tokyo?

 
Old 06-01-2019, 07:46 PM
 
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What day did it reach 103 degrees at Tokyo?
it was in 2015, only one I could find.
 
Old 06-02-2019, 08:13 PM
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Location: Dallas, TX
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Phil, according to the snow record for Dallas....you got snow in 2013 and 2015....so that's still your 3 to 4 years....nothing changed

https://www.iweathernet.com/dfw-weat...dfw-since-1898
I'm talking about traffic snarling snow and ice. 2 inches isn't all that bad. I certainly didn't notice it being bad in 2014-15
 
Old 06-02-2019, 08:31 PM
 
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Every person I talk to knows the weather is getting weirder, unless you're a climate denier living in his parents basement never seeing the light of day...
 
Old 06-02-2019, 09:04 PM
 
Location: Midwest City, Oklahoma
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Every person I talk to knows the weather is getting weirder, unless you're a climate denier living in his parents basement never seeing the light of day...
I'm not exactly old, but I haven't exactly noticed the weather changing much at all. I think I just pay attention to it more.


As someone else wrote, there are floods literally every single year. Not only did we build all these dams and levees to control the floodwaters(because floods were terrible in the past), but to some extent what we built actually makes things worse.


A few years back I was reading about "Historic flooding on the Mississippi". The problem was that they built all of these barriers along the Mississippi to prevent flooding, but by doing so, they prevented the Mississippi from having a pressure-relief valve. And instead of small-scale flooding in multiple places along the river. They walled the river up with levees and sandbags as long as they could, causing the river's waters to continue to rise until there was a breach, and with it massive flooding.


I also know that the permeability of the ground surfaces matter. If a quarter of the land is covered in concrete or other impermeable materials, then you have far more water ending up in creeks and rivers. I'm not sure the role of vegetation itself.
 
Old 06-02-2019, 11:36 PM
 
Location: Louisiana
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I'm not exactly old, but I haven't exactly noticed the weather changing much at all. I think I just pay attention to it more.

Earth has warmed about a degree and a half since 1880...kinda hard to notice.
 
Old 06-03-2019, 01:08 AM
 
Location: Midwest City, Oklahoma
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Earth has warmed about a degree and a half since 1880...kinda hard to notice.
Do you even understand how temperature works? The 1.5 degrees is the global average, it isn't a constant temperature. Even if this year was "The hottest year on record"(and it wasn't). Where you live might have had a yearly average temperature below what it was in 1880.

Sometimes it is cooler-than-average in the United States but warmer-than-average in Europe or Asia. In other times it might be much warmer in the polar regions but cooler at the mid-latitudes.

https://climate.nasa.gov/news/2714/m...hes-on-record/

Also, climate-change is happening far more rapidly at the poles than at lower latitudes. The temperatures at the equator really haven't changed much since 1880. Even the distribution of CO2 varies dramatically by latitude and hemisphere.


And temperatures are completely inconsistent. On the same day there are record-highs in one part of the world, there are record-lows in another part of the world.

You seem to think a temperature increase of 1.5 degrees means everywhere is basically 1.5 degrees warmer than it would have been otherwise, but that isn't how it works. Which is why it is almost impossible to actually notice climate-change.


And even more, shifts in wind patterns have actually caused parts of the United States to cool somewhat. The "Polar Vortex" pushed a lot of cold air into the southeast United States, dropping average temperatures.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/trevorn.../#c4437f6f84c5


Most people simply cannot detect climate-change. But that doesn't stop many of them from believing every weather event is caused by global-warming. While they completely ignore the fact that almost all natural disasters are actually less-common than they were in the past.
 
Old 06-03-2019, 05:11 AM
 
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Every person I talk to knows the weather is getting weirder, unless you're a climate denier living in his parents basement never seeing the light of day...
This harkens the story of the liberal in NYC who could not understand how Nixon won the 1968 presidential election because, "everyone I know voted against him"!

Perhaps you need to expand your circle of friends. Keep in mind that liberals tend to be emotional and hysterical, and will therefore "perceive" things that are not happening.
 
Old 06-03-2019, 05:59 AM
 
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I'm talking about traffic snarling snow and ice. 2 inches isn't all that bad. I certainly didn't notice it being bad in 2014-15
When I lived in Dallas over 20 years ago, 2 flakes was enough to snarl traffic!
 
Old 06-03-2019, 06:01 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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Articles?

Well........... having grown up in the Midwest I can tell you that the Missouri and Mississippi flood almost every year.

Some years are worse than others, but the worst in the last fifty years was 1993.

If "climate change" and CO2 are causing all these terrible things, one would expect flooding, tornados, hurricanes, and draughts to be worse every year (as CO2 is rising).

Yet there has been no increase in any of the above. In fact, the 1930s are still the warmest decade on record. Now how can this be so when every year now we have "new record high temps"?
Where do you live, seems like many places in Iowa, Arkansas, Nebraska are breaking records and its been going on for over 2 months. I wouldn't point to one incident as the result of AGW but there are certainly frequent moisture related events impacting not only the US but the world.




Temperatures are increasing globally, period.
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