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Old 06-01-2019, 11:59 AM
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Location: Planet Earth
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Couldn't agree more.

These people who claim every natural disaster is due to climate change are no better than people who deny climate change.
Can't rep this enough.

The issues surrounding climate change will never get solved because the hard-core deniers and hard-core believers of the topic outweigh anyone else's opinion and they won't listen to anyone that doesn't subscribe to their beliefs, so nothing will get done.

Kind of like todays American politics, so you could say it is fitting.

 
Old 06-01-2019, 12:01 PM
 
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Well in the case of the Midwest, increased flooding is actually a result of climate change. There are significantly more heavy rain events today than there were 100 years ago. That's a direct result of warmer temperatures and more moisture in the atmosphere.
There are no heavy rain events associated with this years flooding...

The main culprit is a stalled jet stream that brought weeks and months of average rains to the sames areas on an almost daily basis.
 
Old 06-01-2019, 12:05 PM
 
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There are no heavy rain events associated with this years flooding...

The main culprit is a stalled jet stream that brought weeks and months of average rains to the sames areas on an almost daily basis.
I never claimed anything about this specific event.
 
Old 06-01-2019, 12:07 PM
 
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Floods in the midwest were much more common from 1850 to 1950....
....if it's global warming....then global warming is making fewer floods

https://www.weather.gov/lix/ms_flood_history
 
Old 06-01-2019, 12:07 PM
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Location: Dallas, TX
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I could tell climate change was real when for the first time in my life, I went without snow for 8 years - out here in Dallas. We did have two snow-icy winters afterward ('10 and '11), but we've not gotten snow ever since. In the 20th Century, it was once every three to four years. In this century, only the years I mentioned.
 
Old 06-01-2019, 12:08 PM
 
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I never claimed anything about this specific event.
Not explicitly, but that was your implication.
 
Old 06-01-2019, 12:11 PM
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I could tell climate change was real when for the first time in my life, I went without snow for 8 years - out here in Dallas. We did have two snow-icy winters afterward ('10 and '11), but we've not gotten snow ever since. In the 20th Century, it was once every three to four years. In this century, only the years I mentioned.
Funny you mention this, the only white-Christmases I've experienced in my life both occurred in Dallas. 2009 and 2012. Never would have guessed it the first time and certainly didn't think it would happen again 3 years later, but it did.
 
Old 06-01-2019, 12:52 PM
 
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Well in the case of the Midwest, increased flooding is actually a result of climate change. There are significantly more heavy rain events today than there were 100 years ago. That's a direct result of warmer temperatures and more moisture in the atmosphere.
It's weather, not climate.

Isn't that what the AGW crowd always says?
 
Old 06-01-2019, 01:04 PM
 
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I could tell climate change was real when for the first time in my life, I went without snow for 8 years - out here in Dallas. We did have two snow-icy winters afterward ('10 and '11), but we've not gotten snow ever since. In the 20th Century, it was once every three to four years. In this century, only the years I mentioned.
Phil, according to the snow record for Dallas....you got snow in 2013 and 2015....so that's still your 3 to 4 years....nothing changed

https://www.iweathernet.com/dfw-weat...dfw-since-1898
 
Old 06-01-2019, 03:29 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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https://twitter.com/ClimateSignals/s...36919472922625

It's understandable why some people are slow to accept climate change. It's an abstract concept.
But when it slaps you hard in the face, you better pay attention.
A minor flood is not evidence of climate change.

Which part of "flood plain" do you not understand?

Flood plains are supposed to flood.

That's why Earth created them in the first place.

Most of your flooding is due to poor planning, engineering, design and construction by the Army Corps of Engineers.

The rest of it is due to human development, not climate change.
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