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Old 06-01-2019, 04:39 PM
 
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Climate is always changing, so saying that is a result of climate change means nothing. We no longer have great ice sheets like in the ice age.

Either a weather event is proof of climate change or not, no one gets to pick and choose as is happening.

 
Old 06-01-2019, 05:30 PM
 
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Actually the flooding is the result of climate change.
Then what was the dust bowl in 1936?.....this was 1 year of rain.....the dust bowl was almost a decade drought...
 
Old 06-01-2019, 05:32 PM
 
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Did you read the articles?
We had similar floods in 1993, 2011, and many times before that. In fact, this is not as bad as 1993. The worst one was about 70 years ago.
 
Old 06-01-2019, 05:42 PM
 
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No it's not...

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There are no heavy rain events associated with this years flooding...

The main culprit is a stalled jet stream that brought weeks and months of average rains to the sames areas on an almost daily basis.
 
Old 06-01-2019, 06:38 PM
 
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Same reason they denied smoking caused cancer for decades.

Industries that stood to lose from a reduction in fossil fuels seeded the denialist movment and the CEC took it from there once Al Gore got involved since it was easy to paint the whole thing as a Democratic idea and therefore obviously wrong (for anyone in the CEC).
AGW is probably neither right nor wrong in an absolute sense.

What it is, if valid, is grossly overstated.

Sure, adding CO2 to the atmosphere has the potential to increase the surface temperature over time.

Will the negative effects be serious enough to worry about?

Doesn't seem to be the case.

Will anyone that has been screaming about impending doom for the past thirty years be taken seriously today when they drag out recycled versions of yesteryear's failed predictions?

Not likely.

We know from the fossil record that CO2 levels have varied wildly over the millennia and that temperatures have also changed, but there also appears to be little, if any, long-term correlation between CO2 levels and temperature.
 
Old 06-01-2019, 06:54 PM
 
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Hilarious-

When the "global warming" crowd figured out it was not warming, they changed to "climate change".

As the winters have been getting much colder and more snow is falling, the AGW crowd says , "that's just weather, not climate".!

Tell me- when does "whether" stop and "climate" being?
 
Old 06-01-2019, 06:57 PM
 
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Hilarious-

When the "global warming" crowd figured out it was not warming, they changed to "climate change".

As the winters have been getting much colder and more snow is falling, the AGW crowd says , "that's just weather, not climate".!

Tell me- when does "whether" stop and "climate" being?
I am 71 years old and there have been several floods in my lifetime that were worse than this one. Some were many years ago.
 
Old 06-01-2019, 06:59 PM
 
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Did you read the articles?
Articles?

Well........... having grown up in the Midwest I can tell you that the Missouri and Mississippi flood almost every year.

Some years are worse than others, but the worst in the last fifty years was 1993.

If "climate change" and CO2 are causing all these terrible things, one would expect flooding, tornados, hurricanes, and draughts to be worse every year (as CO2 is rising).

Yet there has been no increase in any of the above. In fact, the 1930s are still the warmest decade on record. Now how can this be so when every year now we have "new record high temps"?
 
Old 06-01-2019, 06:59 PM
 
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https://twitter.com/ClimateSignals/s...36919472922625

It's understandable why some people are slow to accept climate change. It's an abstract concept.
But when it slaps you hard in the face, you better pay attention.
climate change is real...and natural

only an egotistical liberal would be so full of themselves to think that it is man made
 
Old 06-01-2019, 07:06 PM
 
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Articles?

Well........... having grown up in the Midwest I can tell you that the Missouri and Mississippi flood almost every year.

Some years are worse than others, but the worst in the last fifty years was 1993.

If "climate change" and CO2 are causing all these terrible things, one would expect flooding, tornados, hurricanes, and draughts to be worse every year (as CO2 is rising).

Yet there has been no increase in any of the above. In fact, the 1930s are still the warmest decade on record. Now how can this be so when every year now we have "new record high temps"?
That is what I have been saying, 1993 was far worse than this one. And if you look into history, 1950 was worse yet.
In my part of Missouri, high temp records are all from 1953.
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