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Democrats, the party of chaos who thrives on feelings, tries to make sense out of the organized party, which operates on actual facts.
Give it up Dems. You'll never understand.
It's also why conservatives push religion so hard and so desperately want a society where Christianity is the "glue that holds society together." A shared religion makes it easier for people to fall in line and makes it easier for the state to control the direction of the culture.
Have you met 3/4 of my family? 'Cause that's exactly what has them by the balls.
Oh sure, it’s the conservatives that fall in line. Just try disagreeing even a little with a Democrat about socialism, abortion, race and gender garbage or any of their other
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Reason: language
Conservatives are less tribal by nature, we all speak the same language, we all enjoy the same entertainment, we all enjoy the same type of work or hobbies. We are human, we don't seek to differentiate ourselves from our humanity like those on the left strive for. Community, family, religion, and country is more important than identity. We define identity only as American.
Democrats, the party of chaos who thrives on feelings, tries to make sense out of the organized party, which operates on actual facts.
Give it up Dems. You'll never understand.
lol?
Yeah, the party that started alternate facts and that BS are grounded by objective truths, cut me a break.
There's considerable truth to the premise behind this thread. Conservative reasoning favors the local over the distant, the kin-group over the stranger-group, the nation over the globe. "Globalism", even in the sense of unbridled corporate power, is anti-conservative, even if in terms of profit-motive and low-taxes and so forth, it isn't exactly "liberal".
The central conservative idea is that local group-interests are more valuable and merit deeper devotion, than any paean to "universal humanity". Loyalty matters, less from the principle of fidelity and reciprocity of faith (though this matters too), than from belief that sticking together with one's family, one's mates, one's team, one's tribe - is more important than advancing some abstract goal.
The liberal view tends to diminish distinctions between people as members or non-members of some entity. To a liberal, the difference between citizen, resident, sojourner, stranger and impostor aren't so crucial. In any case they are secondary to a person's actual behavior. To a conservative, these differences are paramount.
Consequently, conservatives would regard some policy that benefits strangers or foreigners, at the expense of locals or citizens, as being stupid and outright treasonous. Liberals would shrug their shoulders in bemusement, wondering as to what's all the fuss.
When conservatives ( and sometimes just middle-class people without an agenda) see the direction the democrats want to lead our country then there is a tendency to "fall in line". The democrats need to evaluate their core belief's and stop trying to pander to every one and any one if they are going to be successful.
Conservatives are Tribalism to an extreme. There is a very real reason the left have such a hard time with unity and the Right does not. The Left by and large focus on issues, and many of them are so hung up on different specific issues that they will attack each other as much as they attack the opposing Right.
The Right cares more about loyalty. This fact is why they are so willing to back "their team" even when presented with hard evidence that those individuals act in direct opposition to their supposed values.
You want to know why it doesn't make sense that they cry about things like universal health care, but don't cry about the trillions spent on pointless wars? Because it isn't made to make sense. You will never logic your way out of people who are climate change deniers, deficit apologists, border wall supporters etc. They are thinking on a tribal level, not a logical one.
This fact is because tribalism taps into fundamental conservative beliefs. Conservatives are much more sympathetic to things like authoritarianism, classism, racism, etc. because it is based fundamentally on the idea that some people are simply better than other people. And, often times, those "better people" are frequently people that conservatives can associate with themselves, whether that is "being an American, being a Republican, being a Texan, being white, being a man, being a soldier, being wealthy etc."
So, when a man comes up and says "I am you, but I am the best of you. I am a White, wealthy, American man, and I am here to tell you that Climate change doesn't real." You just accept that as fact because you're not going to crucify one of your own, especially if you believe he is better than you.
This fact is why the left is far more likely to crucify their own over "petty" things. You think Anthony Weiner or Al Franken would be out of office if they were Republicans? When was the last time you saw Republicans call for the resignation of one of their own over a sex scandal, an indictment, a racist past, etc. ? It's not impossible, but it is far from common. They are far more likely to call for their head when they trample on "their side's" policies like Gun control or Abortion.
The "Left" isn't perfect, but it is FAR less susceptible from this tribalism, and it causes them to be fractured. This is why you see nuts on the left tend to be isolated into pockets unable to form a good coalition, because they are typically not immune from criticism from "their own side."
The problem is the Democrats act like the Right has those same standards, but the Right takes advantage of the loyalty of their base, and in brilliant fashion.
Agree or disagree?
Bonus: someone stated “Democrats fall in love, conservatives fall in line”..
lol
The dems don't focus on the issues. They're into identity politics.
The dems united under obama.
The dems, being the party of the klan, have no problem with racism. They had the gal to trot out racist Rev Al and the homophobe Joy Reid for talks about bigotry.
Republicans are not conservatives.
The Cleveland Browns have a better track record than your posts do.
There's considerable truth to the premise behind this thread. Conservative reasoning favors the local over the distant, the kin-group over the stranger-group, the nation over the globe. "Globalism", even in the sense of unbridled corporate power, is anti-conservative, even if in terms of profit-motive and low-taxes and so forth, it isn't exactly "liberal".
The central conservative idea is that local group-interests are more valuable and merit deeper devotion, than any paean to "universal humanity". Loyalty matters, less from the principle of fidelity and reciprocity of faith (though this matters too), than from belief that sticking together with one's family, one's mates, one's team, one's tribe - is more important than advancing some abstract goal.
The liberal view tends to diminish distinctions between people as members or non-members of some entity. To a liberal, the difference between citizen, resident, sojourner, stranger and impostor aren't so crucial. In any case they are secondary to a person's actual behavior. To a conservative, these differences are paramount.
Consequently, conservatives would regard some policy that benefits strangers or foreigners, at the expense of locals or citizens, as being stupid and outright treasonous. Liberals would shrug their shoulders in bemusement, wondering as to what's all the fuss.
Hey, 100% agree and well put.
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