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Let Israel and Saudi Arabia deal with it. Iranian nukes can't reach us.
BTW: the US would be smart to help develop the nuclear tech that Bill Gates has helped developed. As I understand it, the new nuclear plants he proposes runs on DEPLETED uranium. Not enriched. So that these dictatorships can't hide behind the "we need it (enriched uranium) for nuclear energy" nonsense.
They would first be required to inform Iran of their suspicions and then a lengthy process that could take months which *may* get them access.
That's just conjecture since they were in fact in compliance with the agreement, not one country or the international commission has indicated otherwise. So is Trump going to get the 5 countries and Iran back together and put together permanent deal and get it passed through congress. He tore up the deal without having a plan other than more sanctions, he never put much thought into what may happen if sanctions don't work.
OP, I question your reading comprehension skills as well as your apparent lack of understanding of world events. Iran NEVER stopped enriching uranium and it wasn't required to do so under the deal: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_n...deal_framework
Seriously, I wonder why some choose to mislead in this forum
Spot on. It's true what they say about one's perception being one's reality. I am gobsmacked at how anyone could defend now or support back then Obama's disastrous "deal" with Iran. So many major blunders + questionable behavior during his presidency had me seriously wondering if his intent was to bring America to its knees.
Spot on. It's true what they say about one's perception being one's reality. I am gobsmacked at how anyone could defend now or support back then Obama's disastrous "deal" with Iran. So many major blunders + questionable behavior during his presidency had me seriously wondering if his intent was to bring America to its knees.
The only people not supporting the deal to stop Iran was the right wing Tom Cotton following, the entire international community was behind the agreement. How can something so disastrous accomplish its intent. I'm sure the republicans have a better idea and a master plan. They wouldn't just let Iran head towards nuclear capability again without having some idea, I just know it.
Just like the ACA, they don't have a clue how to accomplish things but there sure good at destroying.
BTW: the US would be smart to help develop the nuclear tech that Bill Gates has helped developed. As I understand it, the new nuclear plants he proposes runs on DEPLETED uranium. Not enriched.
Bill Gates is too stupid to develop anything.
Bill Gates did not create MSDOS, he bought it.
Bill Gates did not create Windows, he bought it.
There's actually better reactor technology in development.
One such reactor is specifically designed to use nuclear waste.
The US would not need to create reactor fuel. It would just have to pull the nuclear waste out of storage that tax-payer money is needlessly wasted on storing and guarding to fuel the reactors, and her design would allow four such reactors to power the US for four centuries.
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Originally Posted by LordBalfor
DUH!
And intelligent people understand that you don't develop nuclear weapons UNTIL you master enrichment. So why do you think they're moving forward with their enhanced enrichment?
You don't even know what enrichment means. It's just a word you saw on the internet.
Iran has dual-reactors at Bushwehr. It needs to enrich Uranium to fuel those reactors.
One reactor will be used solely to power a series of desalinization plants along the Persian Gulf, since desalination plants are energy intensive.
That water will be transported to the Iranian Plateau -- a Garden of Eden during Glacial Periods, but a desolate wasteland in Inter-Glacial Periods. It will allow Iran to grow a tremendous amount of food, creating jobs to reduce Iran's perennial 20% UE Rate and allow Iran to be a net-exporter of food, and the whole world benefits from that.
The other reactor will provide commercial and residential electric power, allowing Iran to shut down its natural gas and diesel oil electric power generation plants. That will divert more oil to the global market and more oil for use as petro-chemicals, creating more jobs and reducing oil prices, while also allowing for growth in areas that have limited electric supply.
It's a win-win for everyone.
A large stable Middle Class in Iran is the best way to move the country toward democracy.
Contrary to your pedantic musings, there's no such thing as "mastering enrichment."
One either has the technology to enrich Uranium or one does not.
It's sort of like vacuuming carpet. You either have a vacuum cleaner or you don't.
And so what if Iran is enriching Uranium?
There's a very valid scientific reason why the US and Russia never used U-235 as a fission-trigger for a fission-fusion weapon.
Without Pu-239, you cannot have a fission-trigger for a fission-fusion weapon, which means Iran could never create a warhead bigger than 60 kt.
Even if Iran created a 60 kt warhead, all they can do is stand around and marvel at it, because they have no way to deliver it.
Iranian F-4s and Su-24s could carry a 20 kt gravity bomb, but not very far. It would crash and burn just outside Riyadh, Saudi Arabia.
There's actually better reactor technology in development.
One such reactor is specifically designed to use nuclear waste.
The US would not need to create reactor fuel. It would just have to pull the nuclear waste out of storage that tax-payer money is needlessly wasted on storing and guarding to fuel the reactors, and her design would allow four such reactors to power the US for four centuries.
You don't even know what enrichment means. It's just a word you saw on the internet.
Iran has dual-reactors at Bushwehr. It needs to enrich Uranium to fuel those reactors.
One reactor will be used solely to power a series of desalinization plants along the Persian Gulf, since desalination plants are energy intensive.
That water will be transported to the Iranian Plateau -- a Garden of Eden during Glacial Periods, but a desolate wasteland in Inter-Glacial Periods. It will allow Iran to grow a tremendous amount of food, creating jobs to reduce Iran's perennial 20% UE Rate and allow Iran to be a net-exporter of food, and the whole world benefits from that.
The other reactor will provide commercial and residential electric power, allowing Iran to shut down its natural gas and diesel oil electric power generation plants. That will divert more oil to the global market and more oil for use as petro-chemicals, creating more jobs and reducing oil prices, while also allowing for growth in areas that have limited electric supply.
It's a win-win for everyone.
A large stable Middle Class in Iran is the best way to move the country toward democracy.
Contrary to your pedantic musings, there's no such thing as "mastering enrichment."
One either has the technology to enrich Uranium or one does not.
It's sort of like vacuuming carpet. You either have a vacuum cleaner or you don't.
And so what if Iran is enriching Uranium?
There's a very valid scientific reason why the US and Russia never used U-235 as a fission-trigger for a fission-fusion weapon.
Without Pu-239, you cannot have a fission-trigger for a fission-fusion weapon, which means Iran could never create a warhead bigger than 60 kt.
Even if Iran created a 60 kt warhead, all they can do is stand around and marvel at it, because they have no way to deliver it.
Iranian F-4s and Su-24s could carry a 20 kt gravity bomb, but not very far. It would crash and burn just outside Riyadh, Saudi Arabia.
Obviously I don't like the end goal you have planned, I think Iran is becoming a better place thanks to the sanctions, if the people just learned to accept a lower standard of living. Democracy is not what they need.
But regardless, a genuine question, wouldn't an over-usage of desalination plants on the Caspian sea create an excessive amount of salt waste which could cause long term problems? https://www.reuters.com/article/us-e...-idUSKCN1P81PX
Dear god. You honestly believe that that had stopped?
Really?
Because that's what your college professor and the folks at CNN said?
Did you just recycle a 2002 post about Iraq? You may recall - the last time a Republican administration started shooting their mouths off about WMD in a country that began with "Ira"? You have zero evidence that Iran didn't abide by the deal, and you know it. The IAEA ran the inspection regimen (in both countries), and they know their stuff.
Do you recall how stupid you and yours looked back then, when the massive secret facilities turned out to be nothing but eager fantasies? That was the GOP vs. the IAEA as well, if you recall.
Last edited by Dane_in_LA; 11-11-2019 at 12:35 PM..
Iran can put satellites in orbit. If Iran so desired, they could put a warhead into any US city you care to name. I rather doubt they'll be able to build warhead small and light enough as of yet, but - they're not dumb.
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BTW: the US would be smart to help develop the nuclear tech that Bill Gates has helped developed. As I understand it, the new nuclear plants he proposes runs on DEPLETED uranium. Not enriched. So that these dictatorships can't hide behind the "we need it (enriched uranium) for nuclear energy" nonsense.
Sounds like a fascinating piece of technology, and also it won't work to stop proliferation.
Running a nuclear reactor by definition means generating an intense neutron field. Jab a chunk of U-238 into said field and presto, you'll be generating Pu-239 by neutron capture. And Pu-239 is where it's at when it comes to nuclear warheads, the uranium route is so 1940s.
Some reactor types are better suited for this than others, of course. Iran had an HWR that was very well suited for the purpose. Had, because they destroyed it as part of the treaty Trump is now doing everything he can to undo.
Thanks to Trump's Stupidity, Iran is Now Actively Enriching Uranium.
Exactly, very predictable.
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